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#Left Amiga M function

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#111051From: Robert HirschfeldMay 17, 1995 8:48 AM
Chuck, Though I imagine you are aware of this, just in case you're not, the left Amiga-M key function does not return to the workbench screen from the Toaster switcher screen. Since I use a TBC that is software controlled, it's important that I access the TBC screen. The left Amiga-M function does work from Toasterpaint and Lightwave, but unfortunately going to these programs also switches away from input 1 where I am feeding in the video signal. Do you know if something is being done on this? Thanks. Bob
#111059From: Frank VanellaMay 17, 1995 10:26 AM
Bob, PMFJIH, but I have 4.03 and the Left-Amiga-M combo works just fine from the switcher screen. There is however a bug that relates to DPS's software and 4.03 Flyer software that can cause anomolies. I have found that by using an earlier version of the DPS TBC software, I can avoid most of them. I usually set switcher to the appropriate input, Left-Amiga-M out to workbench, run the tbc software, set my adjustments, then quit the tbc software (saving the settings in one of the ten preset memories first) then Left-Amiga-M back to the switcher. All tbc settings remain in effect until you run the tbc software again or reboot the Amiga. I have found that if I leave the TBC software running when you return to the switcher, there is a conflict becuase both programs are fighting for the use of the Right-Amiga key combo. Flyer wants to use it for the display names option, and TBCIV softaware wants to use it for freeze frames. I have gotten around the issue of freeze frames two ways: 1. Use the TBC remote from DPS 2. Use Tpaint to grab the appropriate frame or field from the clip I am working with in the project. Before you load the clip you want to process, just open the control panel for the clip, move the in or out point slider to the place where you want the freeze frame to occur, then either remember the number of the frame that is displayed or click your mouse into the in/out display that you want the info from. By clicking into the in/out display you "capture" the text info. Supposedly there is a way to paste that info into another field, but I don't recall the keyboard shortcut (it's in the 4.0 docs somewhere). Hope this helps Frank Hopefully Newtek and DPS will communicate with each other about this bug and get all of us back to work without so many "work arounds". BTW, what TBC are you using? Frank
#111077From: Robert HirschfeldMay 17, 1995 3:06 PM
Frank Thanks for the advice. I'm using Feral effects TBC and I'm able to access its control screen from Toaster paint and C.G. but not from the Toaster switcher screen. I'm using 4.03, but am unable to get back to the workbench screen from the switcher screen even when I don't have the TBC software turned on. Perhaps I've got a bug in my version of 4.03, which I down-loaded from Newtek's FTP site. I also believe I saw on one of the posts, that instead of using the update command (which I intially did) you are supposed to reinstall alll the software. I might try this and see if it makes a difference. Hope you are doing well with your system, Bob
#111080From: Stephen BaileyMay 17, 1995 3:52 PM
I heard at NAB that future versions of the Flyer/Switcher would allow Amiga-M jumps to Workbench. After all these years/versions, they finally fixed it, I thought. Perhaps you're seeing this in action. Steve Image Dynamics – Chicago
#111201From: RAD Moose @ NewTek, Inc.May 18, 1995 12:33 PM
Flyer/toaster 4.x software does use the standard left-Amiga M and N key combos for screen flipping. In versions 3.5 and earlier, the key sequence ctrl, ctrl, left alt, left alt, tapped in rapid succession (like Dorothy clicking her heels with those ruby slippers) will take the user to and from the Workbench screen. Again, tap tap on CTRL followed tap tap on Lt Alt.
#111202From: RAD Moose @ NewTek, Inc.May 18, 1995 12:38 PM
Actually, it occurs to me, if you already have a Flyer and the left amiga keystroke is not swapping your screens, you have some problem with your software installation or your system, as the feature is consistently working here on all systems (in my typical paranoid fashion I just checked this out on several machines, A2000 and A4000, in the Tech area. They worked.) At the moment, I have no suggestion for a possible cause, and no solution other than try re-installing.
#111306From: Robert HirschfeldMay 19, 1995 9:55 AM
I tried reinstalling software, but it still did not work. Could this be affected by the use of a Warp Engine and Emplant software?
#111375From: BRAD HAYESMay 19, 1995 8:39 PM
I know Warp Enging will not cause that, Emplant however I can not say… Brad Hayes Hayes Visual Communication
#111443From: Robert HirschfeldMay 20, 1995 10:26 AM
Brad- You're right- Warp Engine has nothing to do with it and it seems neither does Emplant. For some reason, I discovered that I have to push both Amiga keys with the M or N keys and then it goes to workbench to my TBC screen. Maybe it's just a wierd connection in my keyboard. Thanks anyway Bob
#111601From: BRAD HAYESMay 21, 1995 4:36 PM
Rob: What happens before you run the Toaster/Flyer. Dose the single Aimga key-M work then? It sounds real wierd, but heck if it works, it works… Brad Hayes Hayes Visual Communication
#111380From: RAD Moose @ NewTek, Inc.May 19, 1995 9:05 PM
I don't think so, unless something is not properly configured in one or the other. We have flyer owners who have both in a system working successfully along side the Flyer.
#111310From: Robert HirschfeldMay 19, 1995 10:15 AM
Chuck, I got the problem resolved. In order to make it work I need to push both Amiga keys simultaneously and then hit the M key. Go figure. Thanks for your help, though. My toast is flying these days.
#111382From: RAD Moose @ NewTek, Inc.May 19, 1995 9:27 PM
That is really peculiar. I'll try double-keying around here on some machines. Meantime, could you download diags.lha from our BBS at 913-271-9299, and run the keyboard matrix test to see if your keyboard circuitry is OK? It may have nothing to do with what is going on, but….
#111243From: BRAD HAYESMay 18, 1995 6:28 PM
Bob: In Toaster 4.x The Amiga-M key should take you to the NEXT screen avalible. The Amiga-N key will take you directlt to the Workbench. If your are using Toaster 3.1 or earlier, to get to your other screens it Ctrl, Ctrl, Alt, Alt. In other words hit the Ctrl button twice then hit the Alt button twice. Brad Hayes Hayes Visual Communication