#JVC Edit Desk
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I recently purchased an Edit Desk System. I produce industrial video tapes for
small manufacturers and service businesses. For that use I don't need SMPTE
usually. But the frame accuracy of the Edit Desk has really helped my
productivity. I don't think you can beat it for the money. I paid a tad over
$6,300.00! It will bring that much back in a very short time.
Do you have specific questions?
I see that you do industrial videos. How do you find you customers, or how do
they find you? Also who does the scripts? I am very interested in breaking into
this market.
Do you find that 3rd or 4th generation VHS dubs are of adequate quality for
this market?
Harry,
Geez, I can't believe it actually took me almost a month to reply to your
questions. I've been working a lot lately (gotta pay this darn CIS bill you
know).
I have found a market in small to medium sized manufacturing firms. Firms who
can see the advantages of video marketing but ordinarily could not consider it
due to the high cost. I find them in the Yellow Pages! I write them a
letter. I send a brochure along with the letter. I call them in a few days.
I send a demo tape to those who are interested. I close a few sales. I make
some money (which makes my wife happy). I pay for some gear. I do it all over
again! What a way to make a living.
Actually, I'm just getting started myself. I spent a lot of time last year
building a studio in a 100 year old carriage house behind my home. (No you
don't need to do this and No I don't recommend it as a good way to start. But
I was leaving a 10 year commercial bank job and it was therapeutic for me.
Besides, I've got a real neat studio now!). Still, in all, the business is
growing and it basically works as above!
I also produce and market special interest videos, tape an occasional special
event and produce a photo/movie/slide transfer. (Made $5,000.00 in December
doing transfers!). I get leads from newspaper articles and give the subjects a
call. Then we work out a 50/50 deal on the profits. This way the video
production doesn't cost them anything, and we both can make a lot of money. Or
we both make very little money. It's risky but there's this risk/reward thing
that attracts me.
Regarding your second question; 3rd and 4th generation VHS dubs are not of
adequate quality for industrial videos. IMHO. If you must work with VHS to
begin your business, use a high quality camera, light your shots correctly,
use pro-grade edit decks with TBCs and hand the client the edited master.
(Keep a dub for your files). If your client wants several copies, you really
should consider using at least SVHS or HI8mm throughout the acquisition and
editing steps. I use SVHS. I use an Panasonic AG460 camera (which is
for sale along with a Panasonic edit system btw.). I edit on the JVC Edit Desk
system and dub from the edited master to VHS. Thus, my clients get a 3rd
generation dub. The image quality of a 3rd generation dub for this use is o.k.
Occasionally, for certain shots or effects you might (underscored and bold) get
away with a 4th generation segment, but you'd really want a tuned up system to
pull it off. 4th generation stuff is pretty ragged.
Oh, btw, I usually interview several persons to gather info about whatever
widget the client builds, then write a rough draft script myself. (I'm no
Hemmingway but I can usually write a fairly clear technical treatise.) After
the client hacks away a couple of times a usable script appears. After the
client signs off on the script, I create a shot list from it and video happens!
Good luck with your new venture, let me know how you do!
Martin
I sent you a long reply but somehow sent it to myself! So please find my reply
in the map.
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the very informative reply – more than I expected. It sounds like
you are doing quite well. I am in my 2nd year of business but do this only part
time so I am not as aggresive as you. I am currently working on my
scriptwriting skills – I feel that this is the most critical and difficult (for
me anyway) part of producing a video. So far I have read "Corporate
Scriptwriting – A Professional's Guide" by Ray DiZazza and "Scriptwriting for
High-Impact Videos" by John Morley – both excellent books. I may decide to hire
out for this job though. I have also read "Industrial Video Production" by
Mitch Lang. In this book, Mitch describes how to produce industrial videos for
small companies with low cost gear. I guess this sounds like the type of work
that you do.
I shoot in Hi-8 on my Sony VX3 and edit from a computer controlled Vdeck to a
Sony Hi-8 deck. I like to use Hi-8 as a edit master since I can dub high
quality audio onto the PCM tracks. The quality of the resulting 3rd generation
VHS is OK. That is whay I asked you about your 3rd generation quality – I
wanted to know how good the JVC decks were.
I advertise in our neighbourhood Yellow Pages at a very reasonable rate and it
gets me a steady stream of business without me having to run around drumming up
customers. I shoot events and do a lot of editing. Also do film/stills/ foreign
transfers and dupes. I am very interested in making a SIV but have not come up
with any real good ideas yet. I started to produce a SIV on how to buy a used
car but lost interest after it became too complicated and not really knowing
how to market it. How do you sell them? What SIV's have you done? Maybe I will
buy one of yours.
Mr. Kaufmann:
Can you suggest where I might get a copy of "Industrial Video Production" by
Mitch Lang which you recommended? I can't seem to find it here in Southern
California (nor can my favorite technical book store).
Many thanks
Ed Faunce
Hi Edward, the Industrial Video Production book and video are only available
through mailorder. I don't have the phone number anymore but you can write to;
Columbia Video Services
P.O. Box 86891
Portland, Oregon 97286-0891
Harry,
Many thanks for the info.
Ed Faunce
Well, I am wondering about the controller ports, really, and if 3rd parties are
using them in any ways.
I agree with you… BIG BANG for the buck in SVHS! I love it.
Zeddock Miller
(I'm Gary Meyer with TAO Media Systems)
TAO has begun shipping a JVC direct 12-pin interface with our Editizer AB roll
controller. You can dial into JVC's ProFax system and request document
#366–it will send you a fax of all the details in a few minutes. The ProFax
number is 201-794-3238.
I agree–I love the S-VHS format and this is the greatest breakthrough for
S-VHS editing we've seen. This interface has really struck a chord with a lot
of folks looking at editing systems right now.
Gary
Do you know if the Edit desk system can be used with the video toaster for
rendering animations.
I wouldn't be suprised if something couldn't be worked out for that, but it
would take a lot. The edit desk with the TC is 0 frame accurate, but control
issues would be hell.
Zeddock Miller
TAO's Editizer has optional software for single frame recording from animation
programs. Should work OK with the JVC Edit Desk VCR, BR-S800.
Gary Meyer
TAO Media Systems
Thanks for the reply dude.
Sorry I was kinda late on that…I was in Las Vegas for 10 days without time to
check the board.
Gary Meyer
The BR-S800 recorder fills requirements which may affect animation recording:
* Insert capability
* Capstan Servo *bumping*
* Time code reading/control
* +/- 0 frame accuracy with TAO's Editizer when synced correctly
Perhaps we could get some additional comments from others who may be reading
this.
Gary
Again, let me test it.
Thanx
Zeddock Miller
Please call David Gilmore or Larry Vance at 314-364-4925 about testing.
Zeddock,
Sorry about my delay in replying to your question. It looks like Gary Meyer
helped you (and me) out with a reply. A big thanks to him! As for myself, I
haven't seen any 3rd party hardware advertised yet, but I expect it will
happen. This CTL time code thing is just too cool for developers to ignore.
It's very fast and easy to use.
Martin
Absolutely Right about CTL. It works great.
Zeddock Miller