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#4839From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 20, 1995 1:12 PM
LES, Thanks for responding so quickly and thoroughly. However, the configurations you recommended exceed my budget. I guess I should have mentioned that I dont have to have broadcast quality. I mean that would be great, but I guess Ive just assumed that thats impossible right now for less that $10,000. Your recommendations cause me to pull out my 4/95 issue of Digital Video Magazine and glean whatever info I could from the ///FAST advertisement and Resellers descriptions. Of course, I then noticed ///FASTs low end product line; i.e. Movie Line (which includes Movie Machine Pro w/ Motion-JPEG Option, Adobe Premiere, Animator Pro and XingCD authoring software. All for $995). Are you familiar with this product? It sound great, but I like a confirmation from 2 or 3 witnesses. Ive requested the manufacturers info, but until then Id appreciate some other input.
#4854From: J. Leslie Booth/INApr 20, 1995 9:14 PM
Well … can't do it now but will get back to you next week with the email addresses of several very satisfied owners of the items below. I have, to install both the Movie Machine Pro and M-JPEG Option and all the software mentioned below on the shelf above me… as I write. I will have it installed and working by late next week. I will let you know my personal opinion… but know from many others right now that it is all GREAT!!! Cannot beat the price for the quality offered.. >>Movie Line (which includes Movie Machine Pro w/ Motion-JPEG Option, Adobe Premiere, Animator Pro and XingCD authoring software. All for $995). Are you familiar with this product?<<
#4864From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 21, 1995 8:46 AM
Les, Excellent! I really appreciate you doing this. As long as you're testing the equipment, I thought I might make mention, in case I haven't yet, that I'm not especially interested in creating animation. I primarily want to take analog footage, convert it to digital, edit it with ease, perhaps add some nice titles, neat transitions and maybe an effect or two, and then dump it back onto tape. If the Movie Machine Pro can do this and put out a nice image without glitchs, color bars and stalls, then I'll probably go for it. So I'm eager to know how it goes. I'm also interest in the opinion of other users of this product. Thank for you time, Les! chris
#4890From: Gary r. BettanApr 22, 1995 1:02 PM
Chris, Your free DTV handbook is on the way. I installed a complete Movie Line w/ motion JPEG in my Zeos p90 at home. After a couple of tech calls and getting my IRQs in line, I was up and running. I ca grab 1 minute of video in around 15 frames, with 1 or less frames lost! Not only does it look good, it is the best computer game ever. I analyze my golf swing, I add video clips to everything. A couple of notes on Movie Machine: 1) better to use a sound card from turtle beach notr creative. I don't know why, but info on this and other forums plus inet newsgroups says to. 2) If you need SVHS quality, a new version is due out in about 60 days (so I am told) 3) Trust me, you will start messing with animations once you get into it. I find this eqipment is like potato chips, once you start, you can't stop. 4) Here are the most critical system requirements 486dx2 or faster chip 8 meg ram (16 is better, especially w/ a 486 A fast 32 bit access harddrive (SCSI is not necessary, but will give better results, especially with a 486) If you have any more questions, give me a call on out DTV tech support line 516 759-1615 (9-5 M-F) Regards and happy videomaking, Gary Bettan tech advice specialist The Electronic Mailbox ps check out the FAST web site @www.telepost.no/ndt/ndt.html you will have to jump to english also check out videomaker mag @ www.videomaker.com
#4935From: henry tellerApr 24, 1995 6:50 AM
Hi Gary Would you please resend your DTV Handbook to: VIdeology, Inc. 72-6 Newtown Road Danbury, CT 06810 The first one you sent got mangled by the USPS and only the cover, with the address, arrived. Thanks. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our product
#4948From: Larry Gene McCoyApr 24, 1995 10:44 AM
I would like a copy of the DTV handbook. TYIA Larry McCoy Vintage Video P.O. 1616 Gallatin, TN 37066
#4967From: John MyersApr 24, 1995 5:15 PM
We would love to have a copy of your DTV handbook. John Myers 2070 Touraine Half Moon Bay, CA 94019
#5013From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 26, 1995 8:48 AM
Gary, What kind of picture quality do you end up with when you convert your analog footage to digital, manipulate it in Movie Machine and dump it back to tape? Do it lose a lot of sharpness? Are there color-bars, stars, glitches, etc? chris
#5030From: Gary r. BettanApr 26, 1995 7:00 PM
Chris, The beauty of digitizing video is you eliminate any generation loss. What you inherit are digital artifacs. I was very impressed with the results I got using the MMPRO with vacation footage I shot with a 4 year old Ricoh 8mm camcorder. Here are some tips and observations about digitized video with MM Pro 1) If you pan the camera to follow a fast moving object, you will get a non-fluid type motion. This is most noticable when you pan against the scan lines. 2) On talking head type shots, I was able to use very high (30-50:1) ratios and still get acceptable video quality 3) If you need close up detail of textures, digital video isn't really there yet (for under $1000 cards). Textures and subtle shadows tend to get averaged (muddied). The picture looks good, but close examination will reveal the loss of resolution. 4) The faster the CPU and disk drive, the better the capture rate, the better the finished product. 5) Don't even try non-linear editing with less then 16 meg RAM. ANd You can't make up for it with virtual memory, using the harddisk is to slow, and editing becomes tedious. 6) I had no problem with color bars, or loss of sharpnes in general, although I did get some odd color shifts in the sky portion of some images. There's my 100% totally biased views on the Fast Movie Line. I love it, and so do my customers! Gary Bettan The Electronic Mailbox DTV tech support 516 759-1615
#5052From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 27, 1995 8:28 AM
Gary, What kind of products do you sell to your customers. Just ///Fast products? Why are you biased? Is it because you learned DTV on ///Fast products? On what other DTV systems do you have hands on experience? If you don't have time to answer any of the above, could you at least answer this (although I think you'll say yes). Do you think it would be wise for me, as a beginner in DTV, to purchase and learn on MMPro (the assumed best of the current low-end DTV) and wait a year or two until the dust settles and prices drop in the high-end battle for the best? This is what my gut feeling is after reading the May issue of DV on NLE systems. chris
#5060From: Michael MiloffApr 27, 1995 1:12 PM
PMJI There is a MOVIE MACHINE PRO coming out supposedly in July. Its has some nice additional features, the details of which you can get from your dealer. However, there is no certainty it will come out in July and its more expensive than the plain old Movie Machine. Michael
#5063From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 27, 1995 2:34 PM
Thanks, Do you use MMPro? If so, has it been a good experience? chris
#5064From: Michael MiloffApr 27, 1995 3:06 PM
I don't but I have looked at it and a number of reviews and I will likely be getting it in the next week or so as it has received consistently positive reviews – like all products it has received its share of criticisms as well. I don't have the details at my fingertips, but if you are really interested, go to the Fast forum where its good and bad points are frequently discussed. Michael
#5073From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 28, 1995 8:07 AM
Michael, Great. I'd be interested to know how it goes for you. Is the FAST forum you mentioned on CServe? If so, what is the GO command? I am aware that there's one on the Internet, however I've never surfed there. I wouldn't even know how to jump on from CServe, although I know it's possible. If the forum you referred to is only on the Internet, could you possible provide some simple instructions on how to get there from CIM? If the FAST forum is on CServe, could you please give me the GO command? Thanks for you time, chris
#5106From: Gary r. BettanApr 30, 1995 4:45 AM
Michael, It's nice to see a realistic consumer. We hope to have new MM II product in July. I am visiting Fast USA in two weeks. I hope to have accurate ship dates and full feature/pricing at that time. Look for my own little "press release" when I return. Regards, Gary Bettan The Electronic Mailbox
#5105From: Gary r. BettanApr 30, 1995 4:43 AM
Chris, You are correct on both accounts. I sell Fast products, and I learned about NLE using the MM Pro w.M-JPEG. I have researched other products, and I have visited some awe inspiring high end MAC based systems (Avid, Radius). For the money, I am very pleased with the Fast products, and my customer's satisfaction has been excellent. I have sent you a FREE copy of our DTV handbook. We do sell a complete offering of DTV products, from Video Director, Aver Media scan converters and overlay cards, and the Fast products. As tech support specialist, I install and try every one of these products. (It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it!) My opinion of Fast is very biased, because they have blown me away with their customer and dealer support. They are constantly improving and upgrading their product line, and their insallation, compared to other products I've evaluated, is quite simple. (IRQ conflicts and all) Ragards, Gary Bettan The Electronic Mailbox
#5422From: Data TranslationMay 19, 1995 12:58 PM
Gary— I missed the original thread about your book. As the evangelist for Media 100 (Mac nonlinear video system) I'm interested in what you are doing. May I get a copy/find out more about your publication? –patrick rafter
#5011From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 26, 1995 8:44 AM
Les, Any feedback yet on your Movie Machine Pro testing? chris
#5071From: J. Leslie Booth/INApr 27, 1995 11:47 PM
Chris… I just installed the boards… getting up is yet to come. I am having a bit of video problem with the 'feature' connection. I will have more mid next week. keep in touch… the response to this has been good!! les
#5072From: CHRIS ZACHIDNYApr 28, 1995 8:01 AM
Les, Thanks for the update. By the way, what kind of configuration are you installing the MMPro on? And what kind of stuff are you planning to do on it? chris
#5177From: J. Leslie Booth/INMay 3, 1995 5:19 PM
Chris… >what kind of configuration are you installing the MMPro on< PC.. 486-66 DX2 16 MB RAM 3.5 Gigs >what kind of stuff are you planning to do on it< Video production– video to video video to interactive media TOPICS: Chiropractic Health Care Sports Medicine; Therapy & Recovery Fly-Fishing Techniques *education *information *marketing Canoe/Kayak; educational & informative And whatever else my imagination will produce… 😉 les
#5104From: Gary r. BettanApr 30, 1995 4:36 AM
Re: feature connestor problems Fast has improved the software of the MM Pro, but has not documented it in the manual. Try installing without the features connector. I don't know why, but 90% of users don't need it, and it slows down and/or complicates set up if you use it.
#5178From: J. Leslie Booth/INMay 3, 1995 5:23 PM
Gary Bettan states….` >Try installing without the features connector. I don't know why, but 90% of users don't need it, and it slows down and/or complicates set up if you use it< Man Gary that is un UNDERSTATEMENT!!! My entire system went baserk when I connected to the Features connector!!! Unconnected and I had my machine back. Thanks for the reassuring comments… they are appreciated… I should have read the note sooner–would have saved me a bit of frustration!! 🙁 les