CompuServe Thread

#Individual FF Disks

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#130138From: John FoustJun 18, 1988 2:02 AM
Morality? I sometimes think it's downright immoral for people to be handing out their work. I think it's quite immoral to encourage Amiga programmers to hand out the fruits of their labor for free. A lot of the supposed "hacker ethic" thinks that way, and I'm against it. Sure, people should be free to give away their works if they want, but some people go too far, and suggest that giving away your code, forever and regardless of its development cost, is the cool way to go. I disagree. What's wrong with selling PD software for any price? There's a sucker born… These people have given up their rights to this stuff. What's an Amy Report?
#130183From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJun 18, 1988 8:37 AM
"I sometimes think it's downright immoral for people to be handing out their work." Now this is an attitude held VERY strongly by a famous personality in the computer community, and I've never had an opportunity to understand it. Since I couldn't ask him, but I can ask you… Whence comes this statement? Do you never help your neighbors, lend a hand to anyone, perform a community service? What is the distinction between these acts and "handing out [one's] work"? In each case you are giving away time, effort, or physical property to someone or someone(s) else. In a few of the cases it might be one-on-one, on others it is "to the wind". Since I can't see the immorality of donating a weekend to the Muscular Sclerosis Society, I can't see the immorality of donating a program (which I was going to write for my use anyway, and which is not commercially viable) to the world at large on the off chance that someone else finds it useful. Given that your reasons for considering this immoral might not be the same as the reasons of the person alluded to earlier, I'd like to hear your rationale. Note: this is not a razz session, I'm asking because I'd like to know. Rick
#130198From: Doug WingerJun 18, 1988 10:13 AM
Hmmm… thoughts stir… Well, I woulkd say the decision would be based on WHAT it was that was being given away. I doubt that proprietary algorithms/drivers/libraries would, or even should, be given free rein. However, the clever hacks that won't make it commercially are a different matter altogether. If someone is fool enough to hand out source on something that took five thousand manhours and mucho dinero to write, than all I can say is, "Thanks! <sucker!>". Especially if the code was meant for a commercial product, and would seriously damage the competiveness of the company. However, those 'serious' programmers that release source are, IMHO, the salt of the earth. They are the educators to us tyros and probably have done more to advance knowlege of the machine than any number of RKMs. I know I have spent many hours going through code released into the PD/shareware world and gained both a healthy respect for those that wrote it, and more raw information than hours of poring over documentation in the RKMs. No one forced them to do it, but every time I sit and write something and use some little tidbit I've culled from that source, I say a silent prayer of thanks to the Author of the original. The Amiga community gains much from their efforts, and would be a dull place if the practice were to end.
#130243From: Vic WagnerJun 18, 1988 2:03 PM
I don't think Richard was referring to 'stealing some work for which your are NOT completely responsible' and makeing it public. He was talking about a single individuals work, although at the AmigaFriends club, we have talked about putting some jointly produced programs in the public domain.