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#LW Hair Brain Wish

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#49822From: Wayne ColeJan 13, 1993 1:41 AM
John, I have another LIghtwave Wish for the list. Allow configuration of the destination of the recrder commands. For instance, allow selection of an Arexx port instead of the serial port. That way you could have and Arexx host that took lightwave frames, called Toaster paint to get IFF24s called a graphics pakage for manipulation, and compression then…. See what I mean? Just be able to send commands anywhere, not just to the serial port. wmc – via Autopilot!
#49873From: Karl FeltnerJan 13, 1993 10:45 PM
Wayne, Why not save the Lightwave frame as IFF24, then use one of the many Arexx scripts out there to batch process to ADPro for manipulation then re-save with compression in Toasterpaint or with JPEG? Most of what you ask is available already. Karl "Only Amiga can make it happen…"
#49880From: BRAD HAYESJan 14, 1993 3:25 AM
Karl: Can you advise me on one or more of the Arexx scripts you mentioned. I have been looking for an Adpro script that would: Basicly I would like to use ADPro as though it was Rend24, but with more varialbes. Thanks…. Brad Hayes
#49925From: Karl FeltnerJan 14, 1993 7:52 PM
Brad, There are scripts to batch process both framestores and 24bit iffs. There are several scripts for framestore compression. There is also a new (pay) product out called ADP Tools. This will batch process animation frames, preform multiple Adpro operations and allows you to build your own macros. It also doesn't require Arexx. There isn't much out there to compete with Rend24 in function. If you let me know what you need to do maybe I can help. Karl "Only Amiga can make it happen…"
#50158From: John GrossJan 19, 1993 1:31 AM
Brad, There is a new program coming out from Axiom Spftware (Pixel 3D folks) called Anim Manager which uses ADPro to process LW frames as they are rendered and can save in anim format. It's not shipping yet, but look for it soon JGross
#50004From: Wayne ColeJan 16, 1993 6:00 AM
I want to be able to have it happen as part of the rendering process instead of having to render a bunch, process a bunch, redner a bunch more…. If I could send an ARexx command to a host that received the frame/IFF24, processed then returned to LW for the next render, it could all be part of a single operation. wmc – via Autopilot!
#50029From: Karl FeltnerJan 16, 1993 6:12 PM
Wayne, I have 2 2000's linked through a cable using the "parnet" network software. This lets you address another computer as a device. I will try rendering to the other computer and batch processing on the fly. Everyone that has a Toaster has a 2nd 2000 to work on while the first is rendering, don't they? I'll keep you posted on the results. This network software is shareware and supported well. The cable costs about $30.00 Karl "Only Amiga can make it happen…"
#50088From: Wayne ColeJan 18, 1993 2:30 AM
Karl, I don't have a 2nd machine yet. I was holding off until I see if the Toaster is going to get AGA compatible and if some of the other boards may work as well as the Toaster for basic editting, framebuffering, and CG stuff and be better supported. I was originally thinking two Toasters so that while one was rendreing I could be modelling/editing on the other. But after getting stuck a couple of times, I began to think that maybe diversity might be a safer way to go. That way if I got stuck and hung out to dry on one product, I might be able to workaround the problem on the other. And, if I find something that works with AGA I have an excuse to hold out for the 4000T! :^} I'm hoping that the EditMaster and Vivid24 live up to their potential, but I see them being another year – 2years away from significant software support for animation, CG and editing (Vivid24, I believe, can be used as a 2 input switcher and a frame buffer with an optional encoder). What would really be nice is a network version of Lightwave that could render on a host while you continue modelling or doing layouts or other Toaster work on a Toasterized terminal. That might also lead to a stand- alone LW in the process – one that can render Framestores or IFF24 without ToasterPaint and/or the Toaster hardware. I know people who work in studios who would like to be able to do some LW work at home without having to buy a personal Toaster. But I suspect both of those ideas are 95% rewrites and probably not financially feasible for NewTek to do. wmc – via Autopilot!
#50103From: Jim S. RoofJan 18, 1993 8:15 AM
Yeh. It's pretty easy to pirate a copy of standalone LW. Pretty tough to get the same deal on a "pirated" Toaster. Personally, I think NewTek would be nuts to let out a stand alone LW. They'd lose their shirts on it.
#50111From: SyndesisJan 18, 1993 11:28 AM
Maybe that's one of the reasons NewTek makes so much money – their great software products are always tied to hardware dongles, but people don't call them dongles, they call them DigiView and Toaster. 🙂
#50118From: jeff HolinskiJan 18, 1993 2:15 PM
If NewTek was worried about people pirating a standalone LightWave they could just include a REAL dongle. I could handle the concept of a joystick port dongle if it would get me a copy of LightWave without having to buy a Toaster. It wouldn't be much trouble to take the dongle home with you if you want to to some modeling in the evening. Of course you couldn't leave the Toaster rendering while you are working at home, but most license agreements say you can only run the program on 1 machine at a time anyway. For companies that need more than 1 copy of LightWave NewTek could have "site licenses" or give you a discount on additional copies. Amiga people tend to whine a lot about copy protection or dongles, but 3D Studio on the PC uses a dongle, and most Iris 3D programs are keyed to the machines ID number. Worried about losing the dongle or having it stop working??? May as well worry about losing your Toaster or having it stop working! I'm sure NewTek would be more willing to replace a dead dongle 'no questions asked' than they'd be willing to replace a dead Toaster.
#50163From: Wayne ColeJan 19, 1993 3:06 AM
Sorry. I keep forgetting about pirates. Maybe the standalone version could have "manual key word" protection or some such. BTW there was a RUMOR on another forum that LW 3.0 will be relased in afew months, that it will cost about $1000 unbundled from the rest of the Toaster software and that there will be a standalone version of it. For $1000 I hope its got LOTS of new and useable features (not 'use it once in a blue moon' stuff either). wmc – via Autopilot!
#50307From: John GrossJan 23, 1993 1:39 AM
Wayne, Rumors are just that…rumors. Don't believe everything you read. Check out the next issue of VTU for a new LW preview. JGross, back online…
#50578From: Edward HanstJan 29, 1993 9:00 AM
John, When did you get your VTU I haven't seen one since december. What is the issue date? Edward, Toasting from sunny CURACAO!
#50646From: John GrossJan 30, 1993 10:15 PM
Edward, The last issue out was the Dec/Jan issue with "Timing is Everything" on the cover. The issue I was refering to is the next issue which hasn't been released yet. Look for it soon…. JGross
#50139From: Karl FeltnerJan 18, 1993 9:34 PM
Wayne, The rumor mill (mostly reliable source) says the Toaster for the 4000 will use the ECS mode not the AGA. That source says the new lightwave mod will not be released alone and it will not be on CD rom. This news came supposedly came from the NewTek booth at the show. It will be interesting to say the least. That means we probably won't see an AGA Toaster anytime soon. BTW, The rendering to the other machine worked fine and so did the batch conversions on the fly. Karl "Only Amiga can make it happen…"
#50166From: Wayne ColeJan 19, 1993 3:07 AM
I was reasonably certain the render to anothe machine (device in LW's eyes) would not be a problem. What I would like to do is be able to (without having a Toaster in the second machine) tell LW to actualld DO the rendering on the second machine so I can continue doing other Toaster and non Toaster stuff on the first machine which DOES have a Toaster in it. I know, I'm dreaming…. :^{ wmc – via Autopilot!