CompuServe Thread

A3000T???

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#40760From: Luke H MontgomeryJun 21, 1992 10:02 PM
Well, I AM new to the Amiga/Toaster world (after 9 years of MessDos <g>), so forgive me if I ask a basic question… What's the A3000T? I've heard some folk call it a "tower" version of the A3000… is this like "tower" in the PC world? i.e. BIG case with lotsa SCSI drive mounting bays and a good sized power supply?? I've also heard you can put the Toaser in it w/o having to do any cabinet surgery <g>… How 'bout performance of the A3000T on Toaster CPU-intensive S/W versus that of an A2000 with a 030/50Mhz/4+4MB acellerator (e.g. Great Valley Products)??? If my guess is somewhat correct, the A3000 (WITHOUT the cost of an acellerator board) might run in the same price neighborhood as an A2000 WITH an accellerator board, plus some kind of additional cabinetry for additional SCSI drives…. But IS IT WORTH the extra bucks, if any? I know, I know, I could probably ask this stuff of any dealer, but I'd like to know what you folks in the "real world" think! Yea, Ney, out of my freakin' mind?? Your comments are needed (on the CPUs and hopefully not my mind <G>) and they are greatly appreciated! Regards, Luke
#40790From: Matthew J. W. RatcliffJun 22, 1992 10:55 PM
Correct on the Tower thing… The 3000T and 3000 are the same, using a 25mhz '030. the main difference is the 2Mb of "chip" ram on the 3000 motherboard.. this can also be added to a 2000… The pricing is strange and volatile, check carefully.
#40852From: john bennettJun 23, 1992 9:49 PM
What advantage do you get from the 2 meg agnus? Ive had Toaster slices running with adpro, dpaint, pixel 3d all at the same time no problem on a 16 meg fast, 1 meg chip ram system. Is there s/w that requires a 2 meg agnus? – via Whap!
#40865From: Frank VanellaJun 24, 1992 10:01 AM
John, the two meg Agnus (aka OBESE Agnus) is required if you are going to use Broadcast Ttler's enhanced resolution mode (35ns resolution, same as Toaster's CG). Since Toaster's genlock is optimized for use with it's native composite digital graphics and performs with less than average results with other Amiga SW, you wouldn't really want to install the obese agnus in your Toaster system until Newtek writes new code to take advantage of it. In my setup however, there are two Amigas, one "downstream" from the Toaster operating as a CG/Graphics workstation with it's own genlock. It is this second Amiga which I plan to upgrade to the Obese Agnus, and perhaps a new Denise, so as to get the optimum resolution from BT2's enhanced CG and supply more chip ram for Dpaint anims. Frank
#40868From: Matthew J. W. RatcliffJun 24, 1992 11:20 AM
ToasterPaint really loves the extra chip RAM…
#40935From: john bennettJun 25, 1992 11:03 PM
What can you do with more chip ram in Toaster Paint ?? Kinda curious… – via Whap!
#40944From: Matthew J. W. RatcliffJun 26, 1992 2:29 PM
Try having a swap screen and two full screen brushes.. often TPaint will refuse to grab a brush taht's too big, and flash the screen instead. don't you hate when that happens!
#40998From: Erik FlomJun 28, 1992 3:31 PM
I have a 3000 (non-tower), and was having trouble with swap brushes when I had 2MB CHIP & 4MB FAST RAM. Now that I am running 8MB of FAST RAM, I have no problems. Maybe I was runnning so low on RAM before that some of my CHIP RAM was being used for code and was thus unavailable for graphics. Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#40932From: DAVID DAVISJun 25, 1992 9:28 PM
Luke, The 3000T is the tower configuration, very similar to towers in the DOS world, with an 030 processor and lots of slots. I've heard the toaster should fit fine in the "T", but don't know of anyone with first hand experience of this. Advantages? Hmmm, the major advantage with the 3000 series is probably the 32bit bus, but at this point in hardware evolution I don't think there's too much out there taking advantage of it. Eventualy there should be a significant advantage to owning a 3000 (I do) but currently it's probably about even. -David