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#MS Bookshelf Audio

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#37265From: Paul GehlarJan 18, 1993 9:58 AM
I just installed MicroSoft Bookshelf on my Comapq DeskPro 66M with Business Audio. Although pronunciations and animation sounds are OK, most of the music audio is disabled.. Does anyone have any experience with this? I also posted a message over in the Compaq forum.
#37308From: Peter SillsJan 18, 1993 7:01 PM
I beleive that bookshelf uses CD Audio for the music. You can check this by attaching headphones or speakers to the audio out on the front of your drive (assuming it has this capability). I do not believe that there is a CD audio pass-through on the Compaq.
#37393From: Paul GehlarJan 19, 1993 9:06 AM
It evidently uses Midi files for some of the audio and Compaq business Audio doesn't include midi.. only a special midi adapter or, I think, something like Sound Blaster. that's what I understand form Compaq, anyway… thanks for your reply.
#37319From: Jack L. ChalkerJan 18, 1993 8:57 PM
Neither Compaq Audio nor MicroSoft's sound card really fully support mixed audio except in proprietary formats with specific drivers (MS's isn't even out yet, don't know about the Compaq). The Pro Audio Spectrum, SoundBlaster Pro and particularly the 16, and others do support this to varying degrees.
#37394From: Paul GehlarJan 19, 1993 9:07 AM
I better start lurking in forums where they discus these things, so I can shop intellegently for an audio board…. I assume the same is true for the multi-media Beethoven.. glad I found out before I bought it… I'd be one sad guy if it didn't have any audio… I can live w/o the music on Bookshelf.. it's sucha a small part of the info.
#37536From: Jack L. ChalkerJan 21, 1993 12:30 AM
What sound drivers do you have installed in Control Panel/Drivers? And what drivers came with the card? You may have a driver that will do it but just not installed.
#37643From: Paul GehlarJan 22, 1993 12:34 AM
Compaq says "no MIDI supported by business audio". They probaly know.
#37767From: Jack L. ChalkerJan 23, 1993 2:02 AM
Yeah, I checked after I talked to you. Neither the Compaq Business Audio nor the MicroSoft sound card supports MIDI, nor are they really compatible with a lot of existing sound software out there.
#37640From: Mason LandauJan 22, 1993 12:02 AM
You didn't say which version you have…DOS or Windows. I believe if you have the windows version it will run ok IF you install all the proper drivers…including the midi driver, WAV drivers, SB drivers all found on Disk #3 of the 5.25 version of windows. Let me know how it works out…I have the MS CDROMS on the way. Mason
#37650From: Paul GehlarJan 22, 1993 1:14 AM
Compaq says MIDI isn't supported on business Audio. Evidently most of the music on MS bookshelf (Windows) is MIDI.. therefore.. no music.
#37326From: Richard S. BittingJan 18, 1993 9:31 PM
I think you need to make sure you have a MIDI device configured through the control panel. The national anthems and such play through the MIDI device. Good Luck. 🙂
#37395From: Paul GehlarJan 19, 1993 9:07 AM
Thanks Richard… As I've learned multi-medi isn't multi-media and the multi-media I have with my CD and Compaq BusinessAudio doesn't include MIDI support… Glad I found out before I bought Multi-media Beethoven… I would truly be missing something w/o the audio on that! Thanks for your reply.
#37519From: T.K. HoreisJan 20, 1993 6:33 PM
I was considering getting MS Bookshelf w/ MS Word 2.0 on CD. Is it slow and how do you like it? T.K.
#37537From: Jack L. ChalkerJan 21, 1993 12:30 AM
Word installs to the hard disk; it is nearly impossible to run it from a CD ROM in any practical sense. The idea is that you install Word to disk and keep the specially hooked CD installed for Bookshelf. It's basically a way to sell Bookshelf, and was done, I suspect, because there was enough room to do it.
#37642From: Paul GehlarJan 22, 1993 12:34 AM
I haven't used MS Bookshelf much yet… have only tried using it from within another application (with quick keys .. or hot keys) once. I'd say it's typical of CD-ROM based applications. My Random House disk based dictionary is much-much faster.. but MS-Bookshelf doesn't leave me any time to sip my coffe either.
#37823From: Ron ChusidJan 23, 1993 2:05 PM
MS Bookshelf will probably lose in any head to head competition of one book versus a stand alone program ,expecially in hard disk. I wouldn't bother sticking it in just to look up an occassional work. Its advantage is when you want information which might be in more than one book. If, for some reason, you ever wanted not just a definition of the word, you also wanted to have a quotation using it, MS Bookshelf wins. I especially like the way you can get either an encyclopedia article or almanac article when you find a country with the atlas. The included atlas would be almost worthless without the almanac and encyclopedia.
#37951From: Paul GehlarJan 24, 1993 10:29 PM
I hadn't tried that feature of the Atlas. (Xref to Almanac and encyclopedia) Otherwise, I agree that it (Atlas) isn't worth much.
#38212From: Dr.Holthaus+HeinischJan 27, 1993 5:20 PM
i do not know wether it is interesting in this section: ms bookshelfs even runs fine in a CD-ROM-network. I tested Meridian CDNET with Windows workbench. my PC has a soundblaster pro works fine simultaneously. christian heinisch
#38342From: Paul GehlarJan 28, 1993 11:08 AM
Thanks, Christian. We are not supporting CD-ROM on our NetWare network, *YET*. Just one workstation… but it won't be long until we do, and we'll be looking for reference applications, like MS Bookshelf, to run. I doubt we'll have audio boards on the workstations, however. I'm sure many other forum members are interested in your experiences, too.
#38362From: Dr.Holthaus+HeinischJan 28, 1993 5:08 PM
thanks for your answer, but Multimedia CDs without sound-card??? you should insist on it! regards, christian