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#morphing in motion

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#57652From: David HofmannMay 25, 1993 1:48 PM
Hi, I've tried the demo of WinImages:Morph. It's quite easy to do mophings with it. But it can only morph still pictures. How does morphing of a moving object in film work? I could take the frames of each of the two films and morph each frame pair, but that would be very much work. How do the professionals acheve that? TIA -David
#57699From: Black Belt SystemsMay 26, 1993 1:04 AM
No, WinImages:morph does do full motion morphing with automatic tweening; basically, the way it works is like this: You have two "streams" of frames; for instance, 30 frames of subject A and 30 frames of subject B. Now, you set up (at a minimum) the points for the starting pair of frames (1a,1b) and the points for the ending pair of frames (30a,30b). WinImages:morph will then "tween" the points for frames 2-29, relieving you of the work of moving the points yourself. You can also add points of your own definitions (non-tweened) at any number of other points (for instance, 7a/b,15a/b,21a/b) and the tweening will use those as interim guides, resulting in a better quality morph in almost every case. The advantage of tweening is that it does, as you say, reduce the work involved. The disadvantage is that is almost *every* case, a tweened morph of moving subjects will be nowhere even close in quality to a "hand-built" one – graphicss experts will rarely use such a feature for professional work, no matter how well it is implemented in the software (and it is VERY well implemented in WinImages:morph). So the answer to "how do professional achieve that" is, "by hand, very carefully". –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57716From: David HofmannMay 26, 1993 1:45 PM
Ben, Now you convinced me! I must have this program! I'll check if I find a dealer here in Germany first. thanks -David
#57739From: Peter GreciMay 26, 1993 9:36 PM
GET IMAGEMASTER Now, even if you must contact Rumplestilskin. GREAT program, I like Erik Flom also own Cinemorph and RARELY use it since Imagemaster is soooooo much nicer for Morphing, espescially when you add EDGE's LOVELY Software, BTW I suggest you also go for the Autoupgrade plan since those Wacko's at BBS are constantly upgrading this Whizbang Software.
#57772From: Erik FlomMay 27, 1993 2:26 PM
Peter: I found out today, that the Auto-Upgrade offer expired on May 14th, not the end of the month, like I thought. Found out when I called to register for the offer. :^( Waaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!, Erik Flom
#57807From: Peter GreciMay 28, 1993 10:45 AM
Bogus. I think Ben mentioned that AFTER IM R/T is released the Autoupgrade will be available again. I could be wrong tho. I never reapplied to extend my Autoupgrade either and I believe my year will be up in the near Future.
#57828From: Erik FlomMay 28, 1993 7:39 PM
Well, as a current Auto-upgrade member, I think you'll be grandfathered into whatever program emerges to replace it. But, that's just a guess. I'm looking forward to IM R/t, but since it won't retarget to the Toaster buffers (thanks, NewTek!), it won't do me much good until I get my 4000. (Which'll be a few months, at least.) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57863From: Peter GreciMay 29, 1993 12:28 PM
Interesting idea. BTW I just read on Amiga_Video echo that John Gager is looking for JPEG's and other 24 bit images for inclusion on a CDROM he's putting together. If I'm not mistaken John is here on CI$.
#57888From: Erik FlomMay 29, 1993 3:59 PM
I've already been in touch with him, thanks! As of last count, I've got about 27 JPEGs in my CDROMSubmission directory. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone else's work on there too! Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57910From: Peter GreciMay 30, 1993 11:24 AM
Silly me. I have yet to contact John. Doth thou know his CI$ address???
#57933From: Erik FlomMay 30, 1993 7:52 PM
John who? Gross, Maguire, Hirschman, Blackwell, etc. :^) Pardon my short term memory loss, but I forgot the beginning of this thread . . . . Erik Flom
#57935From: John GagerMay 30, 1993 8:19 PM
Of course I'm here on CIS!. Actually I'm here too much at times and my phone bill reflect's it <g>. Yep, Erik has already contacted me concerning submission's for some of his artwork for the CD and it will be a nice addition. Which brings us to you Peter <g>. If you are interested in contributing some of your 3D artwork for the CD, please let me know via Email so we can set up the details. // \X/ John – (Who enjoys harrasing the vendors)
#57962From: Peter GreciMay 31, 1993 12:22 PM
I've already sent ye Email as well as adding you to my "ADDRESS BOOK" in Autopilot(if you don't use Autopilot get it NOW, Big $$$ Saver) Is Email best for sending you the images or would we be Better with the US MAIL?
#57875From: Black Belt SystemsMay 29, 1993 12:56 PM
No, not after IM R/t. After the high-end software comes out, which will be some time yet. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57896From: Mike SchillerMay 30, 1993 12:44 AM
Ben: I've been real busy lately. I got a letter in with my last autoupgrade that it was my last, and that I had to resubscribe, but kind of forgot about it until now. Is it too late for me to resubscribe? -Mike Schiller Live on my AT&T 3b1 until I get a new monitor for my Amiga 🙁
#57942From: Black Belt SystemsMay 31, 1993 12:24 AM
Yep. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57987From: Mike SchillerMay 31, 1993 8:58 PM
Oh well, So it goes… // -Mike Schiller \X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
#57911From: Peter GreciMay 30, 1993 11:24 AM
ooops my mistake.
#57774From: Black Belt SystemsMay 27, 1993 2:47 PM
Autoupgrade program is no longer available, Peter – we're changing the product line (as you'll see when you get R/t) and there's going to be an interim period dureing which we won't be taking AU subs. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57808From: Peter GreciMay 28, 1993 10:45 AM
Okey Dokey. Hope my AU doesn't expire during this period. I'd be CRUSHED. hehehewhehehehehehehe
#57876From: Black Belt SystemsMay 29, 1993 12:56 PM
If you have even one month left, you'll be ok. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57912From: Peter GreciMay 30, 1993 11:24 AM
Well I just read Mike's post about recieving a letter saying it was his last upgrade. since I haven't recieved such a letter I guess I'm safe to get the next version of IM at least.
#57946From: Black Belt SystemsMay 31, 1993 12:24 AM
When your AU program is 1 month from completing, you get a letter. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57963From: Peter GreciMay 31, 1993 12:22 PM
Excellent, so I guess I have more than a month left.
#57775From: David HofmannMay 27, 1993 3:33 PM
Peter, what is Imagemaster? Is it a morphing program, too? Remember, I only have a PC. TIA -David
#57795From: Black Belt SystemsMay 27, 1993 10:40 PM
Imagemaster can morph – but it much more. It is an *extremely* powerful image manipulation system – special effects, etc. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57818From: David HofmannMay 28, 1993 2:54 PM
>> Imagemaster can morph – but is much more. << But is it available for the PC? How much is it? I just wanted to buy WI:Morph, but now you say ImageMaster can do a lot more. I'm confused… -David
#57864From: Peter GreciMay 29, 1993 12:28 PM
Imagemaster is for the Amiga only. The Winimages: series are similar to it but in secions whereas on the Amiga it's one HUGE prg.
#57926From: David HofmannMay 30, 1993 6:25 PM
ImageMaster sounds very interesting, but I can't buy a Amiga now. Looks like I will buy Morph. -David
#57964From: Peter GreciMay 31, 1993 12:22 PM
GET Winimages:Morph, VERY nice if anything like Imagemaster. When they release Winimages:FX get that too. hehehehehehehe
#58001From: David HofmannJun 1, 1993 7:55 AM
>> When they release Winimages:FX get that too. hehehehehehehe << Hey and you send me the money? 😉 -David
#57870From: Black Belt SystemsMay 29, 1993 12:55 PM
Imagemaster is only available for the Amiga. Software with similar capabilities to Imagemaster is on the way for the PC (WinImages:F/x) but it'll be some months yet (6 or more). For the PC, WinImages:morph is the only program we have shipping at this time. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57809From: Peter GreciMay 28, 1993 10:45 AM
Imagemaster Does Morphing and a WHOLE LOT More. It is also a image manipulation and conversion prg. One of the BEST. Winimages:Morph is a port of the Morph section of Imagemaster if I'm not mistaken. Its for the Amiga only at this time. Imagemaster that is. As far as I know.
#57853From: David HofmannMay 29, 1993 8:53 AM
>> Its for the Amiga only at this time. << 🙁
#57877From: Black Belt SystemsMay 29, 1993 12:56 PM
You _are_ mistaken on one point. :^) WinImages:morph uses the same proprietary morphing technology, but was written from the ground up for the Windows OS. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#57913From: Peter GreciMay 30, 1993 11:24 AM
OOOOER ye caught me Twice in one day with misinformation. I'm losing my touch I guess.