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#NEC CD-ROM upgrade

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#48869From: Bob GrzybMay 20, 1993 8:17 PM
I purchased the NEC Gallary late last year with the external 74 reader. Now I see that the NEW 74-1 is out and it can read the Kodak CD-ROMS. I also recall someone telling me that the reader I have can be upgraded. Does anyone know how to go about this and what the cost might be? Thanks in advance for any help you may provide. Bob
#48963From: Werner KalbfleischMay 22, 1993 8:42 AM
I heard from NEC Germany that they changed even hardware and no firmware upgrade is possible. I' frustrated that it seems I have to throw away my CDR 84 now, which I bought end of last year. But I still hope to get better new asap. Raimund
#49019From: Greg HendricksonMay 23, 1993 10:11 AM
Bob, I recently upgraded my NEC CDR-74 to the new CDR-74-1 version. The upgraded version is now Photo CD mutisession compatable (yours is single session only, but will read Phodo CD discs), has a 256 byte data cache compared to 64 in the old version, and uses SCSI 2 protocols. The new drive is somewhat faster than the old. Playing Quicktime movies (I use a Mac) directly from the CD is where I notice the speed increase the most. It was the multisession capability that convinced me to upgrade though. I put all my photos on Photo CD. In my opinion the upgrade wouldn't be worth it if all you were looking for was a performance increase. That's because the cost is steep-$249. To upgrade you must send your old unit back to NEC in Wooddale, IL near Chicago. I got around mailing it in by driving directly to NEC Wooddale and making the exchange in person. I only live about 50 miles from there. Hope this helps. Greg Hendrickson Bonfield, IL
#49093From: Bob GrzybMay 24, 1993 1:54 PM
Greg, Thanks for the info. Yipes! $249 bucks to upgrade my unit that's less than 6 months old! I hope someone from NEC is reading this, what's the idea guys. Bob
#49311From: Jay CahowMay 27, 1993 12:47 AM
Bob, NEC's position is this: They are not upgrading your existing drive, they are actually swapping your existing drive for a brand new one. They require you to return all materials from your original package (cables, drive, caddy, manual, etc…). They then refurbish your drive and resell it to a third party. So they claim you are getting a new drive at a great price. Now this is a highly debatable claim. Since most people will never use multi-session capabilty (any purchased ROM will probably always be single sessioned), and SCSI-II does little for CD ROMs about the only thing you are getting is a slightly larger cache (64k to 256k). Does this seem like its worth $250? I don't think so. I am sure NEC will have a new faster model out later this year. The Toshiba 3401 is a faster drive with better throughput for a cheaper price. For less than $200 more than the upgrade price you can purchase a Toshiba. You might be better off selling the NEC and using the money to purchase a Toshiba instead. The only reason NEC rushed the 74/84-1 to the market was because they were getting alot of requests for multi-session capability. I don't think it was really a planned model in their line. Its too bad as most people don't need multi-session capabilty to start with and is causing market confusion. I look for NEC to announce a 200ms drive (like the Toshiba) with a 300k/sec+ transfer rate later this year. You can purchase those right now from Toshiba but they can be hard to find. NEC does make high quality products. The NEC CDR-74 is not a bad drive. I would not upgrade it if I were you. Jay Cahow Cahow Consulting
#49345From: Bob GrzybMay 27, 1993 4:38 PM
Jay, Thanks for the info. Do you know if my NEC 74 can read the kodak CDs? I'd like to explore this option but would hate to develop a roll, buy the KODAK software, etc.. to find out my reader can't read. Once again, thanks. Bob
#49891From: Jay CahowJun 4, 1993 5:08 PM
Bob, Sorry for taking so long to reply (I don't haunt this forum much anymore). To the best of my knowledge all CDR-74 drives are single session capable and the new CDR-74-1 are multi session capable. In order to read Phote CD's you will need driver version 2.36 which can be found on NEC's BBS. Some early CDR-74 drives (like mine) had a memory chip problem which NEC will fix for free. Its symptoms are banding of the displayed images. Jay Cahow Cahow Consulting
#49931From: Bennett LandsmanJun 5, 1993 11:53 AM
Jay, could I obtain the phone number for NEC's BBS? Thanks.
#49951From: Jay CahowJun 5, 1993 8:45 PM
The last number I have for NEC's BBS is 1-508-635-4706.
#49569From: Richard ThompsonMay 31, 1993 1:57 PM
Does anyone know if this upgrade will work with a NEC 84J bundled with a MediaVision ProAudio 16 card with SCSI connector? Like most of the other people on this string of messages I bought the 84 late last year (Xmas). I actually sent it to NEC (at their cost) and they upgraded the hardware to read Photo CD, but not multi-session. Like others, I thought that would be fine. Now I don't; I've got several photo CDs that I can't add pictures to and still get them to read. So, my question is will NEC swap this drive, and, if so, will the ProAudio SCSI still work or will I need a new, separate, SCSI card???? If anyone knows, please drop me a message (NEC are you out there?).
#49892From: Jay CahowJun 4, 1993 5:08 PM
Richard, A NEC CDR-84 can be upgraded by NEC for $229.00 to physically handle multi session Photo CDs. The other part of the equation though is having a driver that supports multi session capability. Since you are using a MediaVision card (which I don't have) I would presume they are supplying the driver. If their driver does not support multi session capability I doubt the NEC upgrade would do you much good (unless you got a different controller/driver) combination. If MediaVision has an ASPI driver for their card you could use a third party driver like CorelSCSI to get multi session capability.