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#Boot 68000?

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#103001From: Joe LoweryJun 5, 1993 9:58 PM
I'm having a problem with my AMax that seems to be related to my GVP '030 accelerator. I know that one work-around is to use the GVPCPUctrl utility to boot into 68000 mode, but I can't seem to get it to work. If I double-click on the icon – which is supposed to reboot into 68000 – after the system is up, I run SetCPU and still get that the 68030 68882 is in operation. Same thing by going through the cli. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? I'm using a 40 Mhtz '030 board in my 2000. – Joe
#103031From: Christopher TolmieJun 6, 1993 9:55 AM
Joe, Just what is the problem your having running AMAX with the '030 mode? Chris
#103039From: Joe LoweryJun 6, 1993 1:12 PM
Chris – There are a couple of problems that are escalating. I'm near the critical stage where the system is about crippled. I was originally running AMax 2.04 (if I remember correctly) and System 6.05. Then I upgraded to AMax 2.5, simultaneously installing a GVP '030 Combo board. Then the problems begain. First, I noticed that I could no longer change the name on a floppy; soon I realized that I couldn't format a disk in my external Apple drive either. I thought this was a conflict between the newer AMax and the older System/Finder so I upgraded to 7.1 (and got the newest AMax to use with it). The problems did not clear up – instead I found that some older, critical software on the Mac side (specifically Excel 2.2) no longer worked with the new OS. So I got Excel 4.0 – which wouldn't install correctly – and the MicroSoft tech support folks think that the errors are in the system installation. So I tried to reinstall and get a message that there are some problems with my harddrive and the install can not proceed. Now, I have to boot with a floppy in my external Apple drive, and getting increasingly in a corner. I'm almost at the point of trying (I'm no longer sure it will work) to back-up the drive, format it, and re-install everything. This is not what I want to do with my life. Anyhoo, another AMax user was having an initial similar problem with his AMax – GVP combo and found that booting into 68000 mode allowed his system to work properly, albeit sluglike. I would be ectastic with such a dilemma – I just want to be able to get the thing to work at all. I can't seem to get the boot68000 option to work however. I've even tried rebooting onto a floppy with a bare setup on it. I still get the "68030" response to my SetCPU command. My apologies for the long answer – but it is directly proportional to my increasing distress. Any thoughts would be welcomed. – Joe
#103080From: Christopher TolmieJun 7, 1993 12:23 AM
Joe, A couple checks of your software versions are in order. The latest version of AMAX I'm using is A-Max_II_V2.56. I heard somewhere that System 7.1 and AMAX don't work together yet. My A2000 with an older GVP '030 board semms to work fine with System 7.0. I don't have System 7.1 to try, but I think that may be the problem. Do you have the older System 7 OS? I'd install that and see if that stops the problems. You may also need to update your disk driver to work with System 7. I'm using HDT PRIMER 1.2, replacing an older System 6.xx only driver. Maybe someone with a GVP combo board may have something to say that is using AMAX II with it. Chris
#103104From: Joe LoweryJun 7, 1993 10:12 AM
Chris – I'm also using v2.56 of AMaxII, which supposedly works with System 7.1. I don't think that the problem lies in the Apple OS software, as I was having these problems before I upgraded. I'm not sure however what you are refering to as the "disk driver". You mention HDT PRIMER 1.2 – is this on the Mac side or the Amiga side? I am only using the .amhd file on the Amiga side. What is and where would I get the HDT PRIMER 1.2? Thanks for your help. – Joe
#103112From: Christopher TolmieJun 7, 1993 11:52 AM
Joe, HDT Primer is a 3rd party commercial disk driver. The official name is Hard Disk ToolKit. This is what I use to install the disk driver software, format and initialize my macintosh format hard disks. Try calling MACWarehouse, 800-255-6227. I don't think that has anything to do with your problem, but my older driver wouldn't work with System 7.xx Chris
#103106From: Miguel ChavezJun 7, 1993 10:49 AM
Joe, Why don't you try removing the GVP card and see if everything clears up. I don't know, but from everything I hear, GVP cards seem to be common culprits. I also know that on my Macs at work, in some cases, '030's that have their burst and cache modes on will cause alot of serious problems. Try using CPU to turn them off. Hope I've been of help! Miguel ——– AP, AP, and away!
#103115From: Joe LoweryJun 7, 1993 12:29 PM
Miguel, Removing the GVP card is equivalent to an amputation – a definite last resort. I just spoke with the rep from Ready Soft and he says they have given up on a software solution and working on the hardware side. Also, not good news. I may be looking at an Emplant real soon… (I'll try eliminating the cache modes and see if that does the trick – Thanks!) – Joe
#103216From: Miguel ChavezJun 8, 1993 1:58 AM
Well, of course I'm not suggesting you amputate! Simply remove the board and see if your problems clear up. If they do, then you have the culprit in your hands. P.S. I overheard at Digital Dimensions that Amuse now meets at NYU the first Tuesday of every month. Did you know about this? If you do, I would more than appreciate the time and actual building the group meets at. Thanks! Miguel ——– AP, AP, and away!
#103224From: Joe LoweryJun 8, 1993 7:25 AM
I think for now I'll go for a "soft amputation" and see if I can degrade the system via software. But, worse comes to worse, and out she goes for critical projects. AMuse moved to NYU sometime last year – I'm not sure of exact time and place, but call their answering service at 674-8640 and they'll be able to give you the details. Later, Joe