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Hard drive power supply?

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#104770From: Ronnie PertuitJun 24, 1993 6:00 PM
I've recently purchased a multi-I/O board with an IDE controller and I'm now considering adding a hard drive to it for my BridgeBoard. One of the areas I am uncertain of is the power supply to the IDE hard drive. I've got an A2000 with a Vector 68030/25 accelerator and a hard drive on the Amiga side and I've got the Bridgeboard, the Multi-I/O card and a Sound Blaster on the IBM side. Does the A2000 have a spare power connection that I can connect to to power the BridgeBoard's hard drive? If not, is there a standard "Y connector" to split the Amiga power supply to provide a connection for the BridgeBoard drive and where can I get one? Also am I getting anywhere close to exceeding the power supply capacity of the Amiga by adding this IDE hard drive? Any other pointers or considerations in adding a hard drive to the BridgeBoard would be appreciated.
#104902From: Steven D. KapplinJun 25, 1993 1:14 PM
Ronnie, JDR Microsystems sells a Y connector for $2.95 which you can use. The newer IDE drives only use about 6.5 watts which hopefully won't overtax your power supply. If you don't want to buy a new 3000 tower, you can buy a larger replacement power supply for the 2000. I think it's called Big Foot and comes in 250 and 300 watt versions for under $200. Suppliers advertise in Amiga World. When youu install the IDE drive you might find that the BB won't find the drive. To fix this problem add TWO lines to your startup after Binddrivers: run pcreset; run pcreset. The two pcresets will solve the problem, at least they did for me (I have the multi-i/o card, as well.) You will have to enter the CMOS setup before using the IDE drive and set Hard Disk 1 to User 40, then enter the track, blocks, sector size, write precompt, and landing zone parameters. This is documented in the Janus manual. The drive should come with a small set of docs telling you what should be used. Once the CMOS setup stuff is set and saved, reboot the BB from a floppy and run FDISK to pre-format and partition the drive. Reboot again from a floppy and run FORMAT C: /s to format the drive and transfer the operating system files. You should then be able to boot directly from the hard drive. On the multi-i/o board be sure to jumper the IDE controller enable to ON. It normally comes disabled.
#105026From: Ronnie PertuitJun 26, 1993 7:43 AM
This is exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks for the help. But one more question. I am currently using my Amiga hard drive for my Bridgeboard (through makeab). Once I've got my IDE installed and recognized by the Bridgeboard do you know if there is anyway to get the BridgeBoard to recognize both drives (perhaps the Amiga drive could be drive D) so that I can transfer all of my files from the Amiga drive to the IDE without having to go through a floppy backup?
#105035From: Steven D. KapplinJun 26, 1993 11:38 AM
Ronnie, That's a good question. Hard drive installation on the BB and most PCs default to the first hard drive as drive C, and the makeab hard drive also defaults to drive C. What you might need to do before hand is to create a jlink drive on an Amiga partition with enough space and copy all the files from the makeab drive to the jlink drive, then delete the makeab drive (simply erase the aboot.ctrl file and the psuedo-drive file.) Since a jlink drive cannot boot, the BB will now boot from the IDE drive. Then you can simply copy from the jlink drive to the IDE drive. You create a jlink drive by first putting JDISK.SYS into the config.sys file and rebooting the BB. Run JLINK D: dir:fname /c:nnnn, where dir:fname refers to an Amiga drive and a filename (give it whatever name you want, like VDrive) and nnnn defines the size in kilobytes. Make the drive large enough to handle the files you will copy to it. Now, once that's done the NEXT time you boot the BB from the IDE drive you need to re-jlink the virtual drive. You do that by running JLINK D: dir:fname. DO NOT use the /c:nnnn the second time. This will re-link the virtual drive which should now be accessible as D and have all your files. Now just copy them onto the IDE drive. I would suggest you first experiment with this by creating a small jlink drive, copy a few files, reboot and re-link to be sure you have the hang of it. Don't delete your makeab drive until you are sure you know what you're doing so you don't accidently lose everything. Oh, BTW, before rebooting after you create a jlink drive you have to unlink the drive. DON"T reboot the BB without first unlinking the virtual drive. You do that by running JLINK D: /u. This is all discussed in the BB user guide on page 4-28.
#104936From: Christopher TolmieJun 25, 1993 5:46 PM
Ronnie, Radio Shack sells a standard Y-adapter to split the power supply output. I'm using an A2000, '030, hard drive internal, SyQuest internal, memory expansion board, two SCSI controllers, and external disk drives for Amiga and AMAX. It doesn't seem to bother the power supply at all. Chris
#105027From: Ronnie PertuitJun 26, 1993 7:43 AM
I was hoping someone would say that. Good old Radio Shack comes through again. Looks like if you can power all of that with the original equipment power supply I shouldn't have any problem either. Chris, thanks for the help!
#105046From: Manfred GruenebergJun 26, 1993 1:03 PM
Chris, you are running 2 SCSI controllers? I have a similar configuration like you have: A2000, A2620(68020 inside), Syquest internal etc. Do you have an scsi controller on the pc side and the other on the amiga? Do you have both on the same scsi bus? And can you use an external scsi device (like syquest or CD ROM) from both processors? I ask because I am considering such a setup but I am not sure, whether or how it will work. Manfred <- flying from FRA via Autopilot (Amiga) 1.052
#105133From: Christopher TolmieJun 27, 1993 5:31 AM
Manfred, Yes, I'm using two SCSI controllers. No PC side in this machine. 🙂 I've got a KRONOS controller (older belated CLtd product), and a GVP Series II card. The KRONOS did handle all my drives plus the scanner and laser printer (LED actually, a GCC PLP, RICOH engine). But now just a PRIAM ST-506 100MB 5.25" FH and the printer and scanner. The GVP Series II handles two SyQuests, the Wangtek 5150ES tape drive, an 80MB Seagate, 100MB Conners and occassionally a Quantum 210. I share some of the external stuff back by moving cabling back & forth to a MAC II cx. Gee, if I get more drives I guess I'll have to connect them to the KRONOS or maybe put the older GVP Series I back inside the box. I wonder if that is gonna work? Hmmm…maybe its time to get larger capacity drives and get rid of the small stuff? Nah!! 🙂 Chris