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#Need help with JAPAN.LHA

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#104926From: Alan K. OkazakiJun 25, 1993 5:08 PM
Help! I recently downloaded the file JAPAN.LHA from the User library and have run into two messages which prevent me from accessing the program. What I get is: Unable to open your tool ':c/MuchMore' Unable to open your tool ':c/XIcon' Just in the last few days I (finally!) upgraded my 2000 from 1.3 to 2.1 — so, the new OS is VERY new to me. Is there something that I have to do? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
#104999From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJun 26, 1993 2:10 AM
Those programs may not be in your c: directory, but there are others which would work just as well. I suspect (though I have not looked at your program) that you are starting it from an icon. Click once on the icon, and then select "Information" from the Icon menu. Look at the 'Tool Types.' I suspect you will find ':c/MuchMore' in one of them, and ':c/Xicon' in another line. You can change MuchMore to 'More' which comes with your system, and it will work just as well. MuchMore is a freely distributable file reader, and More is the reader that is built into your system. Should solve that part of the problem. Then, replace the "XIcon" with "IconX." They both do the same thing, but IconX is part of your system software; XIcon is a freely distributable program that was very popular before Commodore added IconX to the system. Let us know how this works for you. —Betty
#105191From: Alan K. OkazakiJun 27, 1993 8:34 PM
Betty — Thanks so much for your quick reply. I tried doing what you suggested "…change MuchMore to 'More' — but then a requester (?) comes up saying that it cannot find ':c/More'. Can this be because I have the program in my Work: partition of my HD and the C: is in my System:? But — More isn't in C:, is it? Replacing "XIcon" with "IconX" seemed to solve that problem. That one was easy. Thanks! On this same program, I come up with a requester asking me to install disk #1 or CanDo, occassionally. Neither of which I have — whatever "disk #1" is! Then, I get what I think is a "software error" message — the screen goes black and I get a yellow (?) error message. (Since I'm still new to 2.1, I'm not sure what this is called. Anyway — it doesn't reset the computer — but just goes back to the normal screen after I click the mouse.) Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem with this program? Or, is it possible that there is/was a download error? Thanks in advance for all you patience with me and your help.
#105258From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJun 28, 1993 11:16 AM
Alan, On the problem with :c/More – erase the ':c/', leaving only 'More' and I think that will work, too. I downloaded and looked at your program. It seems that it is supposed to work without CanDo, and that it CAN be run without the 13-disk Dictionary it was intended to have with it, but when I ran it, it demanded disk #7. I believe that if you read the docs carefully and follow them in your setup, you will be able to use it, but without sound. The docs tell you how to set it up. —Betty
#105347From: Alan K. OkazakiJun 28, 1993 10:14 PM
Betty — Thanks for your help. I will try deleting the ':c/' part, leaivng only 'More'. Hopefully, it will work. Docs? What docs? Hmmm, I will have to investigate this. Is that in the "README.fnf" file? (That is what I have been trying to access (via icon) and kept getting the requester about ':c/MuchMore'. Wish me luck. Thanks so much for taking the time to help. I really appreciate it, Betty. From your message — I wonder now whether this program (JAPAN.LHA) is worth it. In all events, I am learning more about getting around on 2.1 and on AutoPilot. That, in itself, is worth it. So far — I love 2.1 and AutoPilot! Alan
#105386From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJun 29, 1993 1:22 AM
The file I downloaded from here had an icon that said "Read Me First" or something like that. It was the one that called for MuchMore. I changed the default tool to MORE, and then clicked on the icon. It brought up the docs. —Betty
#105537From: Alan K. OkazakiJun 30, 1993 1:01 AM
Hi, Betty! Just posted a message to you saying that I did what you said and was able to read the docs. Again, thanks so-o much for your help!!! Alan
#105639From: Christopher TolmieJun 30, 1993 10:18 PM
Alan, You can use any text editor or word processor to read those docs, you don't have to just the MORE command. I personally prefer a program called View80 which you can find in Library 6 of Amigauser. Its best to first be sure you DO have the command MORE before you try using it. It does come with the Amiga OS disks. I believe it should be in the Utilities directory. Check to see if utilities is in the PATH setup in you startup-sequence or user-startup found in the S: directory. Chris
#106130From: Alan K. OkazakiJul 5, 1993 1:58 AM
Chris — Thanks for the advice on using a text editor or word processor to read the docs. Duh……! Seems like the simpliest solutions are the hardest to remember. It just gets frustrating when one knows that something should work — but that one is doing something wrong. I will try View80. Again, thanks for the advice!
#105529From: Alan K. OkazakiJun 29, 1993 11:39 PM
Betty — Hi! I just tried the JAPAN.LHA program after erasing the ':c/' portion and even found the docs that you mentioned! Thanks so much for taking the time and effort (downloading the program to help me! Wow! Thanks!) to solve the problem for me. When I finally did upgrade to 2.1 there was that short period of time when I was without CompuServe (until I figured out how to get Whap! working again and then, finally getting AutoPilot). The first few days using 2.1 without the psychological support of your forums was a little scary. But once I knew I could access the forums again — I sure felt better knowing that you and the other sysops and forum members were there for support if and when I needed it. Thanks again!
#105662From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJul 1, 1993 12:11 AM
I'm glad it is working for you. Please feel free to ask for help whenever you need it. That's what these forums are for. —Betty
#105339From: Christopher TolmieJun 28, 1993 9:30 PM
Alan, To find the location of More (or any other command or program) try typing in the Shell. Please note this will only work with directories that have had their path added with the PATH command. Shell 3> which more ALL AM-102:Utilities/More Shell 3> which iconx AM-102:C/IconX Chris
#105538From: Alan K. OkazakiJun 30, 1993 1:02 AM
Chris — Hi! Thanks for the tip on locating commands/programs. Didn't know about it. Still learning so much. It's amazing and wonderful! Alan
#105801From: Richard BeausangJul 2, 1993 4:13 AM
Alan, You should get a directory utility. They are an immense help in seeing what files are where. They're also good for transferring, deleting and performing various operations on files. I use SID but there are a number of PD and comercial directory utilities available. -Richard
#106129From: Alan K. OkazakiJul 5, 1993 1:58 AM
Richard — Thanks for the advice regarding directory utilities. I "think" I have one already (???) It's called DiskMaster. Is that what you are talking about? What is SID? I have never heard of it before. (Sorry, I am a little computer illiterate.) Is it better than DiskMaster? Something I should look into??? Thanks for the advice!
#106133From: Richard BeausangJul 5, 1993 2:40 AM
Alan, I looked at it once , but I'm not too familiar with DiskMaster. If it helps you see what's going on with your system storage and move things around it'll help. SID is shareware so you can try it out before you pay. The unregistered version is pretty good but the registered version is better. Many people use DirectoryOpus, a commercial utility. -Richard