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CD-ROM maps

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#133862From: Lanny R. ReamJun 7, 1994 9:07 PM
These aren't what most of us want in "maps-on-a-disk", but DeLorme produces town and city maps on a CD-ROM. This company publishes paper copy maps — atlas — for the states, so far they have many NE and some western states. These are large format atlases, that are fairly useful. Each book covers an entire state (except CA which is in two parts) and they show all highways and the main backroads. For Idaho and the other western states, they have a pretty good coverage of the backroads. Unfortunately, they do not differentiate between a main gravel road and a (sometimes barely passable) logging road. All the little towns are there and many features are labeled. These are quite useful when out mineral collecting and you don't have the specific topo or forest map. Unfortunately, they do not show T&R, UTM or lat/lon. Idaho is at a1:250,000 scale, and the contour interval is 400 ft. Forests are shaded green, BLM land is generally indicated, and the county boundaries are marked. They now put out a "Street Atlas USA" on CD-ROM which is supposed to contain "Every Street in the Entire Country!" according to their brochure. The ad also states that the atlas "…is a complete street map of the entire country…You can zoom in on every city, town, or rural area in the country–right down to the smallest backroads. The database gives you instant access to more than 12 milliion street segments and more than 1 million lakes, ponds, rivers, parks, railroads, and more!" Apparently this has been available for DOS machines for sometime and has just been put in Mac format. The list price is $169. DeLorme (Freeport, ME) can be reached at 1-800-452-5931. Has anybody seen this? You would think that the topo map data should be available commercially from the USGS for a reasonable fee, and thus some company could make individual topa maps (area maps, regional maps etc.) available for a reasonable price. Anybody interested in starting a new home business that would probably require some special computer equipment, but could be quite lucrative? Mining companies, logging companies, and many others may be interested, could be a big market. Lanny
#133903From: SyndesisJun 8, 1994 9:34 AM
Wisconsin is one of the states that's had paper DeLorme maps for some time. They're quite popular. They are a lot like the USGS 1:150,000 maps, except they're bound into a tabloid size book. Same color, etc. I'd guess they are directly derived from USGS data, either DLG (digital line graph) maps or the topo maps. The paper version does include topo markings. I'm sure they've done immense amounts of data reduction to get the USA on a single CDROM, so adding topo info would require even more CD space. Lots more – there are more squiggly topo lines than roads. Once I was out hiking and tripped over a topo line and took a nasty spill, but that's a story for another time… 😉 Just across the street, my city hall (Jefferson, WI, pop 6,000) has detailed topo maps of the city in electronic form, as well as all the city plat maps. I could stretch an Ethernet cable out the window and connect to their network. I'm sure the USGS is working on (or already has) these maps in electronic form. I remember seeing my state maps at the local USGS office on a computer CAD screen, I'm not sure if it was land-use or resource maps, I don't think it was topo. As for the DeLorme/USGS maps, I've tried to track down the "quarries" in my area, as marked on the maps. Some are marked, but I can't see them in real life. I've found some "quarries" that were as large as my living room, overgrown with trees, no less.
#133911From: Mike Sisk [Adesk]Jun 8, 1994 10:30 AM
I have both the DeLorme CD-ROM and several of their atlases. The CD-ROM, Street Atlas USA, is quite complete as far as streets and roads go. ZIP code data and phone exchange data is also included. For example; I can give it the zip code of my home town and the software will zoom the map to my home town. Same with phone exchange and/or area code. No contour info on these. The data appears to be quite old. My hometown on this map has railroads that haven't existed since the '70's. The Southern California data, however, only appears to be 5 or so years out of data. I bought this CD-ROM several years ago. DeLorme now has a new release that claims to have more up to date data. DeLorme's Atlases not only seem to be similar to USGS 1:100,000 maps but are, in fact, identical. DeLorme has just packaged the maps into an convenient book and added some roadmap type data (like campgrounds, attractions, etc). These contain contour info in meters. I find the California atlases very handy. Mike
#134117From: Lanny R. ReamJun 10, 1994 12:17 AM
John & Mike The paper atlases are quite handy, but it would be better if they put some sort of coordinate system (T&R, lat/lon, or UTM). Also, they don't do much towards different line weights to separate the better main route dirt roads from the "where is my Hummer" road. Actually they are quite useful, especially if you have a topo map where your mineral site is the atlas can be great to get you from the main highway across xx miles of back roads to your where you topo map starts. Or in the winter when you're thumbing through the geology reports and come across an obscure mention of "euhedral garnets in a skarn in xx prospect pit" or a friend calls on the phone and asks "did you hear about the giant amethyst crystals found on "Out of this World Peak" in Nowhere County, Washington where you don't have anyother map because you've never had a reason to go there, the atlas will show the general area where it is so you can dream about it all winter long. The new brochure for the CD-ROM states that it is up to date and shows all the new streets etc. This obviously is only for towns and cities, not the back woods, but it does say "rural roads". Lanny