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#OS 3.1 Available!

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#152619From: Jay GoodwinJun 16, 1994 2:55 AM
I guess that Expert Systems now has the rights to distribute 3.1 Roms and Workbench to ALL Amiga users! Don't have their number, but they got the distribution rights 6/15/94. I think the upgrade is around $120 for the 3000/4000 and around $100 for 2000/500. No, I don't have their number. Jay Goodwin fallous@ksuvm.ksu.edu
#152653From: phil combsJun 16, 1994 10:03 AM
Have you gotten the upgrade yet? I'm waiting to hear from someone how it works, what it offers, etc. before committing the $. Regards, Phil Combs
#152698From: Chris N.JulsonJun 16, 1994 6:08 PM
PMFJI here, Could you elaborate on this scenario? Thanks, Chris J.–>on AP
#152776From: phil combsJun 17, 1994 7:40 AM
If there are any problems, incompatibilities, etc. etc., I want to know before laying out $100. Regards, Phil Combs
#152746From: John GagerJun 17, 1994 12:56 AM
Anyone know which versions of the Kickstart and Workbench that Expert Systems is distributing? And yes, I know it's 3.1 but what versions <g> // John (Speeding on the Information Superhighway) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#152827From: Steve AhlstromJun 17, 1994 6:53 PM
John, They're distributing Kickstart 40.70 and Workbench 40.42 -sja
#152834From: John GagerJun 17, 1994 8:03 PM
Well that's a little newer than the Kickstart and Workbench versions I'm using, but I'm having a hard time swallowing the price of $150 for 2 ROM chips plus 6 or 7 disks. // John (Speeding on the Information Superhighway) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#153073From: Leslie T. BartiromoJun 19, 1994 10:55 AM
Do I understand correctly that the 3.1 upgrade is a Kickstart ROM and disks?
#153084From: Steve AhlstromJun 19, 1994 12:01 PM
The version that Expert Services is selling, yes.
#153352From: Leslie T. BartiromoJun 21, 1994 9:04 AM
I guess my next question is; what does ADOS 3.1 do that 2.1 doesn't? I thought I had heard that the main difference is enhanced CDROM support. Also, are there any serious compatibilty problems when using 3.1 in a Zorro II machine (like my accelerated A2000?) I assume AutoPilot works with 3.1 <g>.
#153189From: Joe ClarksonJun 20, 1994 7:00 AM
Yes plus English manuals. Joe Clarkson
#152962From: James R. OllickJun 18, 1994 8:44 PM
Do you or anyone else have Expert Systems phone number? I'd like to call and order the 3.1 upgrade for my 4000/040. Jim R. Ollick Using AP from Bergenfield, NJ
#152986From: Robert LittleJun 19, 1994 12:16 AM
Jim, Expert Systems 606-371-9690. They told me they'd be shipping in 2 or 3 weeks… Robb
#153282From: James R. OllickJun 20, 1994 10:51 PM
Thanks. Jim R. Ollick Using AP from Bergenfield, NJ
#153308From: Robert LittleJun 21, 1994 2:11 AM
You're welcome. Robb
#152768From: matthew straneyJun 17, 1994 3:24 AM
Jay, I called and ordered already! Though they told me there would be no A500 kit as they felt there isn't enough CPU to run it efficiently. It may also be that it was developed with the A1200(68020) and the older up-scale(accelerated) market in mind? I thought I'd tell people what I was told. I am sure someone will figure out how to use a A2000 kit in a 500 though. almost forgot. 606/371-9690 Matt Straney, 3 hours late, without your luggage from Grand Ledge — on AutoPilot ——–>
#152773From: Dale LarsonJun 17, 1994 4:35 AM
The A2000 kit is exactly what you need for an A500. I can't think of a single thing that would be different except for the instructions on how to update your A500 ROM. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#152877From: matthew straneyJun 18, 1994 3:27 AM
I'm sure thats true, but it seems to me that it would be real slow on a 68000, but then everything is.<G> I can understand what he was implying, that more 2000s are accelerated than 500s Matt Straney, 3 hours late, without your luggage from Grand Ledge — on AutoPilot ——–>
#152880From: Dale LarsonJun 18, 1994 5:00 AM
3.1 is going to be FASTER, not slower, than any previous release on any hardware you run it on, barring some bug I haven't heard of. There are lots of optimizations. BTW, I just remembered that there are going to be problems with 3.1 on some A500s, the same way as there is with 2.04, maybe 2.05. On some A500s, you have to connect two pins on the ROM (that is a problem you'd have with any 2.04 or greater ROM). On others (old ones), 2.05 has a compatibility problem. I'm not sure if that problem would be gone in a 3.1 ROM, cause I don't remember the problem. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#152953From: steve pondJun 18, 1994 7:01 PM
Would this A500 ROM problem exist on an A500plus, which is after all an A600 in an old fashioned box?? Steve
#153043From: Dale LarsonJun 19, 1994 4:39 AM
Shouldn't. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#152963From: DKB SoftwareJun 18, 1994 8:44 PM
Dale, Unabashed plug alert!! To use a ROM kit for an A2000 in revision 5 A500's, all you need to do is use the MultiStart II ROM switcher. We designed it to take care of the little wiring problem that the older A500's had. Dean Brown DKB
#153049From: Dominick J. FontanaJun 19, 1994 5:48 AM
Dean, I've read a few different things, but I wanted to ask you, because I trust your opinion. Can I use 3.1 with an A2500. I'm using your MultiStart II and MegaChip 2000 boards with it. If so, what exactly does the upgrade consist of and should I expect any problems or incompatibilities with using it? Thanks for your help. Dom Fontana –> Sent from NY via AP <–
#153076From: Dale LarsonJun 19, 1994 11:02 AM
As a developer, I've been using some version of 3.1 with an A2500 for a year. Of course it works and you shouldn't expect any incompatibilities. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#153089From: Martin ConzemiusJun 19, 1994 1:03 PM
So, will a A386/25 Bridgeboard work in a A3000 with 3.1 installed? -Marty
#153184From: Dale LarsonJun 20, 1994 4:56 AM
I don't know why it shouldn't, but I don't use a BB. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#153194From: phil combsJun 20, 1994 8:01 AM
Dale: When the OS changed last time, new ROMs were required for the A2630 accelerator. Will new ROMs be required for this board to go from 2.1 to OS 3? Regards, Phil Combs
#153098From: Jim SakladJun 19, 1994 3:13 PM
Dale – Do you know what's in 3.1 that's NOT in 3.0 (Kickstart version 39.106, Workbench version 39.29)? . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#153185From: Dale LarsonJun 20, 1994 4:56 AM
A few more datatypes (I think). Not sure what else. The more important question is what is in 3.0 that's not in 3.1. A: a lot of bugs. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#153190From: Joe ClarksonJun 20, 1994 7:01 AM
Dale – can you give a precis of difference between 2.1 and 3.1? Joe Clarkson
#153241From: Arnie CachelinJun 20, 1994 4:19 PM
I heard something about a CD-ROM FS included in 3.1… ring any bells?
#153321From: Dale LarsonJun 21, 1994 5:03 AM
Yes, it's in there. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#153196From: Lee BoschJun 20, 1994 9:54 AM
You obviously don't remember the jumper on the 2.0 ROM chips. Lee Bosch (would be using Whap! but it gets silly with my Multiface III)