CompuServe Thread

14.4 Fax Modems

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#41258From: Janusz TylekMay 31, 1994 11:47 PM
I need some help in using 14.4k fax/modems with my Amiga. The UART chip is 8520 which means that is quite slow. Will I be able to use full speed of the modem with hardware compression (up to 57,600 bps) using standard Amiga external port? Thanks for your help in advance, Janusz,
#41282From: Robert ComerJun 1, 1994 10:50 PM
How fast of a processor do you have? I use my 1200 at 57600 baud all the time, but I had to install another serial.device driver called artser.device. Bob Comer — Cruising the nets on Autopilot! Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#41283From: Janusz TylekJun 2, 1994 12:28 AM
I have 68030 25MHz. Does it make a difference? You use 1200, maybe it uses faster UART chip. Thank for input, Janusz,
#41285From: Robert ComerJun 2, 1994 2:59 AM
Actually, it does make a difference… Before I got my accellerator, I was able to communicate at 57600, without have to use that serial.device that I told you about. (There's some timing differences when running a faster processor. I don't think there's any difference in the speed of my "UART", (See Ronald's explanation of the Amiga's UART chip…) but there's definitely difference in the speed of the rest of the bus between the 1200 and other Amiga's. Which Amiga do you have? Bob Comer — Cruising the nets on Autopilot! Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#41493From: Janusz TylekJun 21, 1994 1:15 AM
I have A2000 with GVP '30 25Mhz. I'm quite sure that it will handle 14.4 modems well. I didn't realize the difference between IBM UART and Amiga chips. Thank for your help! Janusz,
#41284From: Ronald B. RomineJun 2, 1994 1:24 AM
JT >>The UART chip is 8520 which means that is quite slow. Will I be able to use full speed of the modem with hardware compression (up to 57,600 bps) using standard Amiga external port?<< A standard Amiga does not have the IBM/Clone UART chip (#8250), the #8520 chip is a custom chip for handling I/O from the serial, parallel, keyboard,and other Amiga I/O activities. The Amiga does have a UART contained with in the PAULA chip. This UART is programable for any rate from 110 to over 1,000,000 bits per second. However, the Amiga's UART lacks a FIFO for buffering incoming data. With the CPU multitasking programs, this can lead to problems, IF the CPU can't return to the serial.device to fetch the incoming data before it is overwritten. The faster the CPU the faster it can get it other tasks done, and return to the serial.device. Having true FAST RAM (system memory), can aid the CPU in preventing system slowdowns due to the CPU having to access CHIP RAM (graphic memory). If you are having problems with the Amiga keeping up with the modem, try limiting the term's screen colors to 8 or less, and if your term software allows — increase it's task priorty so the CPU will devote more time to the terminal. Also, if you have an A2000/3000/4000, there Amiga serial cards available if you need a fast UART+FIFO serial port. Ron. – ap'ing with AP. (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines.)
#41306From: Supra CorpJun 3, 1994 9:23 AM
Well I use modems all the time (I work for Supra Corp) my port on my Amiga 2000 with a Turbo 28 (68000 running at 28 MHz) and have the port set to 57600. On my 3000T at home I set the port to 115,200 (with our new 28.8 modem) and watch it fly.. I get about 9000-11000 CPS on a text transfer. Alex
#41492From: Janusz TylekJun 21, 1994 1:14 AM
Ronald, Thanks for detailed info. Janusz,
#41342From: Gary Vander MeiJun 5, 1994 12:42 PM
Janusz, With a 14.4 modem the 19200 setting is enough. With a 28.8 modem I have kicked it up to 38400. The highest transfers I have seen are around 3300 with the 28.8. They say in the specs that these modems are capable of 230,400 bps. In the real world, using pre-compressed files, you are only going to get 3300 to 3500 cps. Which is mind numbingly fast compared to 2400 baud modems. Don't let the specs boggle your mind. The biggest factor is how clean your phone line is. // Gary Vander Mei on Auto-Pilot \X/