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#3DS Classed/Seminar

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#109562From: James M. MurphyJun 25, 1994 12:48 AM
Hi All. I thought I would Re-Post this message to the open forum as I beleive anyone within reasonable Driving distance to Appleton Wisconsin may be interested. This is currently in the planning stages and nothing is cut in stone so please feel free to contribute ideas, critisize, etc. <G> Please read the following: .>> I am interested in the class by Steve Elliot @ Fox Valley, Pls send details. <<. Here's where _you_ can help me. <g> Steven and I are still in the Planning stages. At this time we are trying to find out how many people would be willing to attend a 2 or 3 day class/Seminar held by Steven Elliott. Steve has a lot of different curriculum as I'm sure you know! <g> What we're trying to determine is…. First: How Many people are interested! Second: Given the Days Currently Booked are Aug. 29, 30, and 31st. How many people can show up on these days? The Booking could be Extended but I gotta know pretty soon! Third: What Skill Levels are we Dealing with….in other words, should these be intermediate or advanced courses….possibly even an Intro course although I'd rather see Stevens time go towards more Tips and Tricks and Intermediate to Advanced 3D Studio Training. Fourth: Of course we have a minimum amount we need to charge for such training and we're still trying to work that out. For Example would 6 people like to work with Steven over a two or three day class (Very Good Instructor to Student Numbers) and Pay $200 Per Day? Or, would we be able to get More People together for a lesser Fee? We also could possibly be Running Seminars on Various 3D Studio associated Products such as the DPS PAR and Possibly the Matrox MAX Depending upon the manufacturers of Course. We'd also have additional Equipment and Software Rep's there depending upon their availability Etc. ( This will be taking place 30 days _After_ SIGGRAPH so all the "New" deals will be running! ) Since this is happening in Aug. we've got to get moving on a couple of mailings and get serious feedback as soon as possible. The Location for the Training/Seminar would be at the Excellent Facility in Appleton Wisconsin known as the "Bourdini Center". This is the ATC for Autodesks Cad Training and has wonderful Computer Classroom facilities Networked with a Giant RearProjection Screen Tied in to the Instructors Computer with the ability to show indivduals screens on the large Projector also. The Conference Room also seats Hundreds with another Rear Projector to Computer Connection Too! The Facility has got to be one of the Best in the Country! Now all we need is Serious 3DS'rs that want an accelerated Class Structure and that see the Value of paying for the Top Facilities as well as a Top Instructor. I would appreciate it if you would give me a call for some of the other details as well as providing some forum feedback that others may wish to contribute to. I also need to find out if you are able to spread the word in the central Wisconsin Area as well. The more people we can confirm that are coming to this, the less it's going to cost to participate. This is going to be for people "Interested in 3D Studio and it's Uses Etc. as well as Power Users. We Will have a Minimum Entry Fee ( Not everyone will be taking the Classes ) but that will also be offset by a goodies Package I'm still trying to put together. I've got to find something(s) that everybody will like/be able to use. That's About it So Far Except I really need to get the word out on this. Any Help would be Greatly appreciated! To be successful it's going to have to be a collaborative activity. <BG> Thanks' ALL! Murph'
#109578From: roger cussonJun 25, 1994 8:10 AM
James….. Gosh sounds like a great idea… seems to me I had a similiar idea, but never expressed it. You are right about deadline issues. better get that mailing out REAL SOON…. I suppose you are local to Fox Valley… Is this for End users only? And you will have to answer the question beginer or advanced real soon or the ship will never fly… the last thing this needs is advanced userd being stuck into a beginers class….. Roger C. P.S. Why end of August?
#109715From: James M. MurphyJun 26, 1994 2:14 PM
Hi Roger! >> better get that mailing out REAL SOON…. <<< I'm working on it as we speak! <g> How many 3ds contacts/addresses do you have in your area? I don't expect the acutal information regarding your contacts but would rather like to know the exact number. Then If your willing to have me stuff the letters and put on the stamps I could send them to you for addressing if there's not too many and you don't want to give me your mailing list…which I Understand. Don't you have a Milwaukee Users Group??? >>> Is this for End users only? And you will have to answer the question beginer or advanced real soon <<< I certainly don't want to exclude anyone. In Fact I can't think of a Dealer that I wouldn't want to see attend…as far as I know we've all been on extreemly good terms. >>> Why end of August? <<< We wanted it to be After the AEC and SIGGRAPH Shows so all the "Deals" and Current introductions to "New" technology would have been gotton out of the Way. Also it was the first 3 days in a row I could book the Room(s). <BG> Murph' One of the things we were thinking about would be to use a Menu approach for the Classes. For example: Day 1: Lofting and Modeling Tips and Techniques. Day 2: Mapping Techniques for Creating Realistic Materials. Day 3: Keyframing for Quality Motion. The logic is that anyone could sign up for all three days or just the days that they wanted. What do you think? BTW This Conversation is open to anyone who would like to Jump in here….so feel free! <g> Thanks' Murph'
#110004From: roger cussonJun 28, 1994 3:51 AM
James….. About the Mailing list.. Well of course that's "our" mailing list and I would be drawn and fethered or was that quartered… if I let this out of my college's hands. I'm not from Millwalkie (sish.. I can't even spell this right) I'm from Montreal.. and yes we do have a User's group as well.. Its small and I'm not involved in its organization. I believe your idea is real good… And If you want to discuss some possibilities send be an E-mail. I do have plenty of ideas and if you want to work together I think we can get some interesting things hapenning. The modular approach is good for local people, people comming in from out of town will probably take all three. What do you plan on charging for the single day sessions and for the group of 3 days? Sounds like the menu is more for advanced users… Sort of like a 3 full day workshops on specific topics.. Its a good approach. some people cannot get away for a full 3 days and are perhaps looking for only a small boost (read not expensive) to get them motivated. If you expect to draw people from out of town you definately need an advanced bent for the sessions. AND QUALIFY the participants, the worst thing in the world is a really keen intermediate user leaving the session feeling that he did not learn anything since the session was a a too low level. Burns them up.. and really blows the best marketing you can get (word of mouth). Hope to hear from you soon Roger C.
#110185From: James M. MurphyJun 28, 1994 11:17 PM
Hi Roger! Mustv' Been Dat Canadian Accent Hey! <g> I thought you were was frum 'round here!!! I'm always being mistaken for Canadian when I leave Da' State. Ya' Hey'….well I batter quite sand-bag N' Ya'… OK! Seriously Roger….I'd love for you to contribute to this project, I need all the help I can get <g>. What have you got in mind???? Regarding pricing on the Steven's Classes it looks like we're doing a menu type of thing were people pay $200. for the days class. We'll offer 3 different classes so one could take all 3 or just one of the most critical subjects of interest to them in particular. Oh Ya'….I almost forgot!! We're going to provide Certificates through the ATC for the Classes so those Companies that are concerned about this being an accredited course won't have to worry. Some companies will pay their employees to take these type of courses if it increases their production value and like it even more if it's Certified/Certificate and all! Did what I just say make sense???? Well you know what I mean! <g> If we get enough response for and Intro to 3D Studio we'll probably make that available too…I've got to go over those details with Steven. I'd stick my neck out on an Intro Course but Steven's the Advanced Instructor for sure! <g> Keep it coming! <g> Murph'
#110243From: roger cussonJun 29, 1994 5:51 AM
James…. I'll get back to you on E-Mail not today but soon… Roger C.
#111091From: Pat Vernon [ATC TM]Jul 3, 1994 11:26 PM
Murph, looks like a great Idea. BTW got you calls. iwas out for 12 days.
#111143From: James M. MurphyJul 4, 1994 2:35 PM
Pat! E-Mail me all your Snail Mail and Phone info. I can't read my short-hand! <g> All I could make out was the one phone number! Gotta' cut back on the coffee! <BG> Happy Fourth! Murph'
#110128From: Dick LasaterJun 28, 1994 5:09 PM
Hi Murph, Please keep me informed. I will be in northern Michigan around that time and could drop down to hear what Steve has been polishing. or should I say publishing. Congratulations to Steve and his wife on their latest issue. Dick Lasater
#110183From: James M. MurphyJun 28, 1994 11:17 PM
Hi Dick! >>> Please keep me informed <<< E-Mail me your Snail Mail info and/or Phone/Fax and you'll surely be kept informed. <g> Where are you located? >> Congratulations to Steve and his wife on their latest issue. <<< Last message I got he was in the waiting room! What did you hear????<g> Murph'
#110573From: Dick LasaterJun 30, 1994 2:24 PM
Murph, My mailing address is 100 12th Street, Del Mar, CA 92014. ph. (619) 755-6313 My assumption was that the Elliots had worked it out by now. I do hope all is well. Bye for now. DL
#110661From: James M. MurphyJun 30, 1994 11:10 PM
Dick; >>> My assumption was that the Elliots had worked it out by now. I do hope all is well. <<< I'm sure it is. Thanks for your interest we'll make sure you get the full information packet once we figure out what that is. <g>. If you don't mind I'll send the two page informational letter I mentioned before. Thanks Dick! Murph'