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#300 dpi Output – How?

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#170357From: Judy WellerMay 16, 1995 5:32 PM
I need to render an image so that the resolution will be 300 dpi. I am rendering a TIFF file. WHat do I need to do to set that up? Judy
#170388From: Robert C. RitgerMay 16, 1995 8:39 PM
Judy: You need to provide one more piece of the puzzle to determine what pixel dimensions to render for a 300dpi image. For instance if the dimensions you were after were 4"x5" you would render to (4×300) x (5×300) or 1200×1500. To set the dpi of an image to exactly 300dpi you will need to bring the image into a paint program and change it there. When you bring in a 3ds image into a paint program you may get a default of 96dpi or 1dpi or something else equally improbable. If you change it to 300dpi the image itself will remain unchanged but when printed it will respect the new resolution. So, you can make any image you wish 300dpi. Can I assume you are about to send an image out to print? Bob
#170409From: Judy WellerMay 16, 1995 9:33 PM
A publisher bought one of my images for a book jacket. I have no idea what the final size will be. I just have to submit it to them in CMYK at 300 dpi. What I have done is brought the RGB TIF file into Photoshop and converted it to CMYK and changed the resolution to 300 dpi. From what you are telling me that should work just fine when I submit it to them. APparently that is what is required by whoever does the conversion of the TIF image for print. Thanks for the info – that was very helpful. Judy
#170429From: Robert C. RitgerMay 16, 1995 11:14 PM
Judy: /_______________________From your message________________________\\ A publisher bought one of my images for a book jacket. __________________________________________________________________ Way to go! Let us know the title so we can scope it out. /_______________________From your message________________________\\ I have no idea what the final size will be. I just have to submit it to them in CMYK at 300 dpi. What I have done is brought the RGB TIF file into Photoshop and converted it to CMYK and changed the resolution to 300 dpi. __________________________________________________________________ That should do it but the printer may end up resizing your image which will play havoc with the dpi but they know that. The key is to give them enough pixels to work with which usually means huge files. Are you sending them image on a Syquest drive? Are the printers MAC based? Bob
#170511From: Judy WellerMay 17, 1995 9:40 AM
The book is going to be published by Addison Wesley – it is on programming games. They used the Castle.Jpg image I uploaded sometime ago ( they saw it on the GAME DEVELOPERS forum – GAMDEV) – I had to change quite a bit of the lighting and sky since they found the original image too dark. I believe it is due out in August. I called and got the rough sizes of the jacket – 10"x8" – so I guess I need to render an image of 3000×2400 and then "fix" it up in Photoshop. Thanks to everyone who responded. It was a big help! Judy
#170640From: Robert C. RitgerMay 17, 1995 10:38 PM
Judy: Let me know when I should check the bookstore for your cover. Bob
#170405From: Dennis GoodMay 16, 1995 9:26 PM
To determine the resolution that an image should be rendered at, use the following formula: (printed output width in inches * 300) by (printed output height in inches x 300) Dennis Good Imperatives, Inc. 10509 Vista Sorrento Parkway #106 San Diego, CA. 92121 619-552-9378 (p) 619-552-9377 (fax) email goodbros@ix.netcom.com
#170408From: Judy WellerMay 16, 1995 9:30 PM
Thanks for the info but I don't know what the finally size with be in print. That is up to the publisher. Judy
#170451From: John SchmidtMay 17, 1995 12:33 AM
Judy, >> I don't know what the finally size with be in print You'd probably better at least get *some* kind of idea from him. For example, you could give him an image rendered at 600×900, which would be 300 dpi at 2"x3", but if he blows it up to 6"x9", then he's only got 100 dpi. John
#170524From: Don LandisMay 17, 1995 10:50 AM
>>Thanks for the info but I don't know what the finally size with be in print. That is up to the publisher. You said the magic words. Judy, when I get assignments like yours I beg off trying to supply a file as anything you do won't be right. What I do is render to a film recorder resolution like 4000×3000 and then dump it to a transparency. 120 format is OK or even 4X5 if you have a service bureau that can handle it. Then send them the transparency. This way they can scale it all they want and not severly artifact the final output. As much as we all like to deal in pure digital format the truth is most printers are more at ease dealing with hardcopy anyway. This way you save all the agrivation of dealing with the color separation process, line screen and angle settings etc. The printer knows best how to handle it anyway.
#170717From: Judy WellerMay 18, 1995 7:57 AM
Thanks for the info – I will be following your advice the next time. Alas I am too far along this route to do other than trudge on to the end 🙁 Judy
#170844From: Don LandisMay 18, 1995 8:37 PM
Good luck! I don't envy anone that has to do it the way you are going about it. Printing MAC heads can be so obtuse at times. I've found they are happiest when they can do their own thing with the transparency.
#170877From: Robert C. RitgerMay 19, 1995 12:55 AM
Don: /_______________________From your message________________________\\ Printing MAC heads can be so obtuse at times. __________________________________________________________________ "OBtuse" or "OBnoxious" <G> Bob
#171084From: Don LandisMay 20, 1995 5:04 PM
I really meant obtuse. ie Slow to catch on to the real world.
#171195From: Robert C. RitgerMay 21, 1995 11:59 PM
Don: One of my last encounters with a MAC based printhouse included a phone conversation with an obnoxious MAC-head. The guy demanded that my image be re-rendered as he couldn't use an image which was 1 dpi. When I asked him why he didn't just change it to what ever he wanted he just cursed PC's as being worthless. So, not only was this guy's obstreperousness an indication of him being obtuse but also an obnoxious example of his MAC obsession. <G> Bob
#171420From: Don LandisMay 23, 1995 8:31 AM
I find there are two types of Mac users, and for that matter PC and Amiga users too. Those that are dedicated to the artistic discipline of their profession and those that are dedicated to their hardware. Generally the latter are the ones that exhibit the obstreperous actions we both disdane. Pulling resources for a final project completion using the synergy of multiple platforms is just plain fun!
#171796From: Robert C. RitgerMay 25, 1995 1:38 AM
Don: /_______________________From your message________________________\\ I find there are two types of Mac users, and for that matter PC and Amiga users too. Those that are dedicated to the artistic discipline of their profession and those that are dedicated to their hardware. __________________________________________________________________ I concur, this is quite a common yet unfortunate phenomenon. /_______________________From your message________________________\\ Pulling resources for a final project completion using the synergy of multiple platforms is just plain fun! __________________________________________________________________ Gotta agree here too as I'm modelling like crazy on my VAX/Alpha workstation and porting it all over to the PC to render in 3DS. Fun it is!
#171139From: John N. JordanMay 21, 1995 12:25 PM
>"OBtuse" or "OBnoxious" <G> or both. 😉
#171722From: SANTIAGO RIVERA UTMay 24, 1995 5:00 PM
Every day I do it!. We have a Kodak Colorease Postcript Printer with a usable surface of 24×20 cm. If we want to print a render of this dim. at 300 dpi, we make the following: (24/2.54)x300 width and (20/2.54)x300 heigh (about 2834×2362 pixels) Save it on TIF format, load it in Photoshop and print. Be patient if yor Postscript printer doesn't have a SCSI interface. By, Santi
#171810From: Judy WellerMay 25, 1995 6:41 AM
Thanks Santi Judy
#170417From: Mike MorganMay 16, 1995 10:26 PM
Judy, I was reading some suggestions you received on your 300 dpi requirements and you mentioned that you do not know the book cover size. Why don't you assume that the book cover is approx. 10 x 14 x 300 dpi = 3000 x 4200 and they can resample the file down to what they need. If this is a 3DS file WE want to see the best output as possible, right. Assuming you are rendering at 640 x 480, this file size would create a postage stamp at 300 dpi. So keep the pixel size up as high as you can. -Mike