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#Printing Quality Images

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#175245From: zack lyonJun 13, 1995 7:58 PM
Hi everyone, I just finished with getting some DESIGNER parts over into 3DS and getting everything set up for printing. I printed to a .TIF file format for importing into PageMaker 5.0. The bottom line is this. I didn't exactly get WSIWYG. The colors were off pretty bad and the shading and reflective surfaces suffered greatly, as well as some parts that should have been opaque were translucent and you could see some of the parts on the back side of the assembly by looking through the part. What is the best recommended way to output a rendering to get a quality hardcopy for proof or client approval of an idea. How do I make sure that what looks like a Pantone Color prints as the same pantone color. How do I ensure that I get the best output possible from 3DS. After showing the client the (in my opinion "really crappy") images, they were excited and I feel that they will want more. Only I need to figure out what is not going right here so I can keep everybody happy. Thanks, Zack Lyon P.S. why would a part appear to be see through? I did a UNIFY NORMALS on it and it went away. Was this the right thing to do? Should I do this on all parts that I don't want to be see-through?
#175323From: David RhotenJun 14, 1995 9:17 AM
If "Unify Normals" did the trick for you, your problem may lie in a couple possible places. First, when you imported the DXF into 3DS, you should PROBABLY make sure that unify normals is OFF in the DXF Import dialog. Why, when this is what you used to fix it? Well, basically, (I'm supposing, as this is the way it works with AME, and I would assume that Designer would have the same kind of smarts) Designer already knows which way all the ssufrace normals should face, and orients them properly. But, when you bring them into 3DS with unify normals on, the normals get scrambled cause they didn't NEED unifying. If the above is not the cause, then you'll just need to accept that this is a fact of life when bringing in meshes from AutoCAD — until ACAD is "normal aware", you'll always have to hand tweak your faces. If you don't own the Yost Boutique IPAS disk #7 (with Optimize), then download the demo of it (Optimize) from the libraries. It will allow you to view your object with little arrows indicating the normals of each face. The full version will allow you to flip a face's normals by merely clicking on the arrow. It's a very handy utility (it also allows you to reduce/increase the vertice/face counts in an object — and comes with 5 other wonderful IPAS routines). As far as printing goes, render with a gamma of 1.8 or so. Then, using PhotoStyler, PhotoShop (or your image processor of choice), clip out a portion of the image which represents a good range of colors, intensities, etc from your rendering. Now, paste mulitple copies of this into a new image. Select each section seperately, and try variations on each (keeping good records of what you do) like adjusting the tonal range, adjusting the brightness, contrast, etc. Then, print this page to your (or the service bureau's printer. Evaluate the result. Try it again, using what you've learned. Eventually, you should discover a couple settings that do a pretty good job. Now, try applying these settings to a couple other renderings. How did it do? Repeat. You might want to talk to your printer/service bureau or dealer to see if they have any "expert" suggestions for adjusting your output. There are also a number of good books about color correcting. I'd recommend a book for PhotoShop by Dan Margulis called "Professional PhotoShop". He writes a column on color correcting for Computer Artist magazine. You might also want to track down Ana (Krazy Images) here on the forum. She's crazy-for-cocoa-pops over Kodak's color management system (built in to Windows 95, and available under both PhotoStyler and PhotoShop).
#175357From: zack lyonJun 14, 1995 12:54 PM
It looks like I will need to go and buy a good low cost quality printer like the EPSON SYTLUS. I need something like that to do test runs on. A service bureau will eat my shorts if I don't. I also need to get PhotoShop. Any ideas of the best place to get it?
#175483From: Ted BoardmanJun 15, 1995 5:24 AM
You'll want to check out RenderPrint from Insight 800-825-4115. It lets you do tiled test prints using adustments for gamma/brightness, gamma/contrast, brightness/contrast for as many as 25 tiles on a sheet. Plus other features. TedB -Ted Boardman !^NavFont01F0007MGHHGCD2E7C
#175517From: David RhotenJun 15, 1995 9:43 AM
I've heard great raves about the Epson Color Stylus. As far as PhotoShop, my fave mail-order house (no Egghead, CompUSA or other "super-store" around here) is MicroWarehouse (they're even on CIS), followed by PC Connection. Their numbers (respectively) are 800-367-7080 and 800-800-1111. Warehouse has an Adobe bundle of Pshop, Illustrator, Streamline, 200 typefaces and the Kudo Image browser for just $60 more than PShop by itself. (item #BN3407 in my catalog coded P53A90).
#175423From: Tyler ColwellJun 14, 1995 8:04 PM
zack, Study the sections in the manuals on gamma correction.