#Sob..Sob.. BACKUP!
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Never mind…I should have looked further before panicking. Forgot about the
prj.bak file.
Now I'm going to bed…:)
-Tyler
Ermm..
It is a wise man wgo invests in D.A.T. or floptical backup LOL
Matt.
>>It is a wise man wgo invests in D.A.T. or floptical backup LOL
Yeah, I've been delaying this but I think the time has come. Thanks for the
push.
It's also a wise man who spells "who" correctly <BG>! Just a joke, no insult
intended.
Which do you prefer, floptical or DAT? In my experience, DAT is more portable.
Is this true?
-Tyler
Dear Tyler,
I have only just got a D.A.T. machine (14 Days ago!) but I'm very
pleased with it, not only can it back up 40+meg a minute through my SCSI card
but it is very portable because by installing the software on any PC you can
link it up with either a Parrell port or SCSI port, which means I can use it
on nearlt any PC. Plus it only costs L15 a tape to backup 8Meg with
compression!!!!, D.A.T. cost from L500-L1500 but they all do the same job the
difference being the anount they backup, which ports they can use and how fast
they do it, If they are out of your Budget go for a Tape Streamer for Cheap
Backup (Slower But just as good!)
Matt 🙂
Greg and other backup proponents,
Yeah, backing up is a good idea. Of course. But I see this as a task to be done
when you are finished working for the day, not as an added incremental
excercise during project development. When I am in the middle of a 3DS project
I am not going to do a tape backup every 10 minutes.
What does everyone do incrementally during 3DS sessions? Save to two seperate
prj files? I thought that was what the prj.bak file was for! Then I guess
there is the issue of saving to seperate media in case one disk takes a dive,
etc.
I'd like to hear the various practices that everyone uses…
-Tyler Colwell
Sierra Analysis Group
Tyler:
I come from the same backup school of thought that GregP and Dave
Marks hail from, the '+' school. Every time I am about to make any
kind of major change to a project or any change which would be
painful to redo I do an incremental project save. I was on version
23 of the last project I just finished. After a few saves you get a
feel for whether you can simply delete previously saved versions or
whether you might want to keep them around for a little while. (If
you can figure that someone might want to revisit that particular
shade of green which you had last week for the glass or that scheme
with the thin mullions then you may keep that .prj around for a
while.) At the end of the day I try to save at least the most recent
project file onto a floppy or some other drive or device which would
keep me out of harm's way if an absolute disaster struck. Saving
project files in just one location is too dangerous for me. I often
take a floppy home in case the office burns down, I really hate
missing deadlines!
Bob
With Flopptical you can treat it as a Hard Disk so you can save to both and
only lose a minutes work time (Perfect excuse to nip to the loo or have a
ciggerette LOL). D.A.T. can be slower but it still in the same league.
Robert you delete you work!!!!!!, I save everything just in case,
e.g. a Boolean creates a dodgy face etc, this has saved my butt many times 🙂
If you don't use either or want them Zipp your project files at the end of the
night to Floppy using the Archive command built into the menu 🙂
Matt
Hi Tyler,
<< What does everyone do incrementally during 3DS sessions? >>
I use the "+" very often and at the end of the day/week, I delete a bunch of
files.
Greg: Just a word from painful experience: Try restoring from your backup drive
before you delete the original files! I just did (and verified) a complete
system backup before a major hard disk upgrade. I ended up losing almost all of
the files on the hard disk and then finding out that I couldn't read my DAT
cartridge any more.
I called Conner tech support and the best that they would tell me (in a very
bored sounding voice) was that my 3M 90M 4mm data tapes "weren't qualified with
that drive". What I needed was any procedure that could have retrieved even
part of my data.
Chris
– Chris Johnston, Written 17-Jun-1995 @ 00:30:17
Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62
If you try some of the Computer tech support foums here on Cserve they should
be ablt to recommend some where that can either read the stuff of the Harddrive
or D.A.T. or put a message on this forum and quote what type of Cartridge and
D.A.T. software you use and some one may be able to retreive it.
Good Luck and P.S. I use D.A.T. and a Tape Streamer.
Greg
Thanks! It turns out that I have backups using two different backup programs.
(All on my evil not party-approved 3M DAT tape!) I can't read any of the tapes
recorded with Conner Backup Exec but I can read the ones done on the Corel
backup software!
I was able to retrieve everything I needed prior to sept 94. It is just the
more recent stuff that I'm still looking for.
Chris
– Chris Johnston, Written 19-Jun-1995 @ 20:53:27
Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62
Any luck with other users or Lab's?
Greg 🙂
Greg: No, not yet. I managed to get backed up to September of 84 but I haven't
found anything readable since then. I'm going to call OnTrack and see what they
say, but I've recovered enough to be hesitant to spend a lot to restore the
rest – if there is anything on the tape to restore.
Chris
– Chris Johnston, Written 20-Jun-1995 @ 20:57:57
Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62
Chris,
I've had that same problem (not being able to read old DAT tapes) however, in
my case this happened without changing anything. I thought it was the tapes
also. The actual problem ended up having something to do with the software or
with a file called ASCSI.SYS or something like that (not ANSI.SYS). The file
was either slightly changed, or was in a different location than the program
thought or something. I would get the message "Data not recognized" from my
software.
Bob W.
I can read backups from one backup package and not another so I don't really
think that it is the tape. I think that it was just the Conner Tech support
person's easy excuse.
I'm now looking for some (NON-CONNER!) software.
Chris
– Chris Johnston, Written 19-Jun-1995 @ 20:55:25
Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62
Try the PC-File finder forum (some one just suggested to me!)
greg :0
Greg: Thanks, good idea!
Chris
– Chris Johnston, Written 20-Jun-1995 @ 20:58:27
Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62