CompuServe Thread

Sticking CLocks

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#175308From: Doug WolfgramJun 14, 1995 7:56 AM
Is there a bug fix for R4 that fixes the "clock sticks at midnight while in SLAVE mode" bug??? Since we are running WFW for our network (eeek!) we don't reset clocks off the network so when we come in after a weekend of rendering, all the machines have stuck dates. Time is OK, just the date doesn't get incremented… Thanks in advance!
#175537From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 15, 1995 12:27 PM
<<Is there a bug fix for R4 that fixes the "clock sticks at midnight while in SLAVE mode" bug??? Since we are running WFW for our network (eeek!) we don't reset clocks off the network so when we come in after a weekend of rendering, all the machines have stuck dates. Time is OK, just the date doesn't get incremented… Thanks in advance!>> Doug, I haven't heard about this problem before. We have had no reports either to or from QA that this is an issue. Does the "date sticking" actually cause a problem when you are rendering? Or are you just wondering to avoid a potential problem in the future. Also there is a WFW forum here on CIS. Have you asked them about a bug fix? -Brian
#175700From: Doug WolfgramJun 16, 1995 8:59 AM
I don't think it is a WFW problem. The only "problem" is when 3DS is in slave mode, the data doesn't get turned over at midnight. When I checked with Greg Pyros, he said that he would never know if it was a bug since all of his machines are always resetting their date and time off the network anyway. This may never have happened before since most networks do that. Our doesn't. Just curious anyway. The only real problem is with Other software and trach=king our artwork when we aren't in slave moed and the day is three days behind.. Thanks for looking into it. (Hint: We had problems like this early in GRASP days when we were checking the system clock for interrupts and stuff. Perhaps this is related??) –
#175747From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 16, 1995 11:50 AM
<<I don't think it is a WFW problem. The only "problem" is when 3DS is in slave mode, the data doesn't get turned over at midnight.>> Doug. I am still confused. Does the network rendering job stop or crash? Are any errors reported? Or is the network merely reporting the wrong data, but the rendering process continues. Please be more specific about the "problem". Also, is there a command line tool to sync up the time/date stamp? Something that you can manually run at the command prompt? -Brian
#175804From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 16, 1995 4:06 PM
Brian, Doug is right – we have the same problem. The date is not incremented on overnight renders. After a couple of days of this the rendering goes way off – frames are missed completely in a long sequence (a real PITA!). My only solution is to reboot every day, whenever possible.
#176012From: Jun 19, 1995 1:59 AM
Martin (And Brian and Doug): >> The date is not incremented on overnight renders. After a couple of >> days of this the rendering goes way off – frames are missed completely >> in a long sequence (a real PITA!). >> >> My only solution is to reboot every day, whenever possible. The other thing you could do is to add an entry in your Video Post queue which would time-sync your PCs to your server. Martin, if you're using PC- NFS, just add the line "rdate xxxxxx", where xxxxxx is the name of your server. It only takes a second, and would avoid missed frames, etc. Greg Pyros
#176070From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 19, 1995 1:01 PM
Greg, This problem is specific to the WFW network. That is why I asked about the command line utility to sync the date/time stamp. I don't know if one exists for WFW. If a command line utility exists for sync, then putting it in as a video post entry was my suggestion as well. -Brian
#176370From: Jun 21, 1995 12:15 AM
Brian: >> This problem is specific to the WFW network. Not really! Martin and I have both seen it, and neither of us runs WfW! Greg PYros
#176462From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 21, 1995 12:29 PM
<<Not really! Martin and I have both seen it, and neither of us runs WfW!>> Well, this IS news! I thought the problem was network specific. However, running the command line utility to set the date/time stamp in the Video Post que corrects the problem, right? -Brian
#177142From: Jun 24, 1995 11:04 PM
Brian: >> However, running the command line utility to set the date/time >> stamp in the Video Post que corrects the problem, right? Yup. Greg Pyros
#176075From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 19, 1995 1:22 PM
Greg, >> just add the line "rdate xxxxxx", where xxxxxx is the name of your server. << thanks for the tip. That could really help out.
#176071From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 19, 1995 1:03 PM
Martin, What we need to do is find a utility that will sync the date and time from the command line. Then that command can be put in as a video post entry to sync up the systems every so often during long renders. -Brian
#176079From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 19, 1995 1:25 PM
Brian, >> need to do is find a utility that will sync the date and time from the command line….. put in as a video post entry << GregP has a good tip that I'll try.
#176082From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 19, 1995 1:41 PM
I went to the workgroup forum (GO MSWRKGRP) and found about 6 date/time stamp utilities by searching on the keyword DATE. I think one or two of these might be able to be run from a command prompt. -Brian
#176104From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 19, 1995 5:12 PM
Brian, >> (GO MSWRKGRP) and found about 6 date/time stamp utilities by searching on the keyword DATE << excellent. I'll try that too.
#176099From: Larry MintonJun 19, 1995 4:24 PM
I use the line "net time \\server /set /yes" where \\server is the name of my file server. Built right into wfw. Do a net time /? for help. LAM
#176132From: David J. MarksJun 19, 1995 9:08 PM
>> What we need to do is find a utility that will sync the date and time >> from the command line. In Lantastic it would be: NET CLOCK \\server-name – Dave
#176287From: Doug WolfgramJun 20, 1995 3:12 PM
Nothing goes wrong with the rendering. ANd yes, there are command line programs that will sync the dates. But I shouldn't have to! 3DS shouldn't be hanging the clock up so that the dates get frozen. That is, if it is in fact 3DS's fault. If you put your machine in slave mode and leave it that way overnight, come in the next morning and the date still says yesterday, something is wrong. That is my problem. We then go to share and update pictures and other multimedia files for a project we are working on and the dates are screwed up and we lose a lot of data… The whole thing would be solved if WFW always set the time to the network time, but it doesn't. Is this clearer? Thanks for your help… –
#176306From: Brian Rudolph [Adesk]Jun 20, 1995 4:41 PM
<< 3DS shouldn't be hanging the clock up so that the dates get frozen. That is, if it is in fact 3DS's fault>> Doug, 3DS makes absolutely NO calls to the network or netware BIOS. That is how it can run on so many networks. <<The whole thing would be solved if WFW always set the time to the network time, but it doesn't. Is this clearer? >> Thanks to Larry, we now have the proper syntax for WFW <<<< "net time \\server /set /yes" where \\server is the name of my file server. Built right into wfw. Do a net time /? for help.>>>> Set up that call in a batch file, and then place the batch file as a que in your Video Post rendering process. Make sure the machine you use as your 3DS server is the machine name you choose to sync all your clocks to. -Brian
#176428From: David RhotenJun 21, 1995 10:36 AM
PMJI Brian, but the problem with midnight roll-over has nothing to do with a network — it's one that has plagued users in a number of programs for years, even on stand-alone machines. Offhand, I don't remember why (what some programs do/don't do that causes them to not allow the roll-over), but it IS a programming oversight that it occurs, as it IS avoidable. I can probably dig up the cause, if needed. Dave
#176505From: MARTIN G FOSTERJun 21, 1995 3:28 PM
David, >> I can probably dig up the cause, if needed. << please find out, if possible. I'm extremely curious to get to the bottom of this. I have seen this too regardless of software/network OS.
#176653From: David RhotenJun 22, 1995 9:19 AM
Will do, Martin. I remember it from several years ago when I used to do a fair amount of programming with a friend. I'll give him a call and see if he remembers (I'm sure he does — great mind for programming). Dave