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#CD-ROM cache under DOS

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#36857From: Andy PaluchJan 13, 1993 9:04 PM
Can someone point me in the right direction to find some CD-ROM caching software. We are accessing a CD-ROM on a Novell Network using a PC equipped with MapAssist(a peer-to-peer solution). This works great but I feel that it would be better if I could use the 4 meg of ram that we have in this PC. Any ideas? I've tried Smartdrive, Cache86, and PC Kwik 5.0 Thanks for help!!!!
#36916From: Jan 14, 1993 10:29 AM
A good solution would be to set up your node with CD Speedway in a cache to local hard disk if available, otherwise set up a RAMdrive and cache the CDROM files there. Info on speedway is available in CDROM libs under the key: Speedway or cache. If you need more info, let me know. Reese.
#36960From: Andy PaluchJan 14, 1993 9:43 PM
Any idea where I can buy this, and what it costs? Thanks!!
#37155From: Gordon K. NormanJan 16, 1993 10:47 PM
Do you know anything about a CD-ROM cache utility called Speedcache 4+ I've seed advertised lately?
#37349From: robin lakeJan 18, 1993 11:21 PM
Gordon, Reese will tell you about CDSpeedway, but there is also a program called SpeedCache + that caches CD-ROMs. Call 219/447-1625. robin
#37405From: Jan 19, 1993 10:12 AM
Yes. Speedcache + has been reported on the forum from time to time. It is published by Future Systems Solutions (no relation to Future Computer Systems (the makers of FAST!). Retail is $129.95, but I've seen it for less. A few points on performance attributes compared to our product CD Speedway. 1) CD Speedway uses a patented file caching algorythm for its read ahead, where Speedcache uses standard hard disk caching algorythms. They are not the same technology. There are benefits to both, but we've found specific examples where Speedway is much faster. I've also heard that it(Speedcache) is identical to Norton cache and Smartdrv from an algorythm standpoint (maybe the same developer?) CD Speedway is a top ten multimedia product at Egghead and is the leading seller worldwide. Feel free to contact me for more information. I'd also like to be corrected on my comments re: Speedcache if I'm incorrect on any of my assumptions. Reese.
#37480From: David HaydenJan 20, 1993 8:02 AM
Reese, I think it's important to note that, since CD-Speedway is a file cache (it copies the CD-ROM file to the hard disk when accessed), it's impractical for applications that have large files, like, er, most CD-ROM applications…. Dave
#37483From: Jan 20, 1993 8:58 AM
That's where we disagree. My point is that since it is a file cache, large files can be cached to hard disk or RAM and get very good results. Or, you can set Speedway to ignore large files and cache small ones only. Let me give you an example. Let's say you're working a database application where the data file is huge….say 50+ Meg. The index is smaller (2Meg.). I would set Speedway to cache the index and ignore the data file. By doing this the data Speedway would grab optimizes the application. Animations are another good example. By caching the file, there is no jerkiness or pausing to the application. A track or sector cache may give some improvement, but no where near the performance gain of the file cache. IMHO, file caching is significantly faster than sector/track caching for one important reason. Our 'read ahead' can't be better than having the whole file, where a normal cache must try to guess to retrieve the correct information from the file. The GO in mammels for example improves over 1600% with Speedway. With other caches, the best improvement I could get was only 140%. In this case it's either GO in 91.2 seconds with no cache, 54.7 with Speedcache+ or 5.1 seconds with CD SPEEDWAY. I significant difference. Reese.
#37835From: David HaydenJan 23, 1993 4:35 PM
Reese, On the other hand, in your example (50MB data file and 2MB index), it would take a file cache about 13 seconds just to read the index into the cache (assuming 150KBps transmission, which is most common). After that much time, I'd have assumed that the application had hung. As you say, though, it depends on the applications you use. Most of my applications have large files that combine the data and index. Dave
#37933From: Bill L.Jan 24, 1993 7:25 PM
Dave, Have you ever used SpeedCache Plus? I use it and I think it might be more what you are looking for. It caches the CD the same way it caches your hard drives. You DON'T need to have to have two separate caches running to cache your CD and hard drives. You might want to check it out. Bill
#38047From: Kevin KruegerJan 25, 1993 8:23 PM
Is SpeedCache Plus shareware or commercial? Thanks <<KEVIN>>
#38110From: Bill L.Jan 26, 1993 7:02 PM
Kevin, SpeedCache Plus is a commercial product. You might want to give their tech support line a ring (219-447-8204) to see if it will work for your application. Bill
#37994From: Jan 25, 1993 8:33 AM
It might, if not for our patented technology for how we read the information. Where you have large files, you might consider using Speedway to cache to hard disk and use a good disk cache to speed things even faster. Reese.
#36921From: F. PHILIP HAASEJan 14, 1993 12:33 PM
Andy, the only CDROM caching program that I know of is CD-SPEEDWAY. I have use it with satisfactory results. Phil Haase 🙂
#36958From: Andy PaluchJan 14, 1993 9:41 PM
I have been looking for this in Computer Shopper, but it seems to be eluding me. Where can I buy Speedway and what does it cost? Thanks!!
#37019From: F. PHILIP HAASEJan 15, 1993 9:57 AM
Andy, the name of the product is CD-Speedway. It runs about 50 bucks and is published by BLOC which has a forum here on CIS. You should be able to find somebody selling it in Computer Shoppe. Try looking at a vendor that sells CDROM. Phil 🙂