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#133131From: Allen L. GreenbergJul 4, 1988 1:08 AM
BTW, do you need some sort of interface for the SC1224, or does it plug right in? -allen
#133136From: John DraperJul 4, 1988 2:56 AM
Allen, You will need to change the plug on one end, and perhaps (depending on your Amiga), need to do some other mods. Mine works fine on my 1000, but will not work on the 2000. I haven't looked into it yet. I do have a 1902, which is effectively a 1080 without the analog RGB circuitry. I added the circuitry myself, and am using it on the 2000. Depending on the 1080 you have, it will range from awful to 'pretty good'. The older style Atari monitor was better than any 1080 (but not better than the 1070), but the better 1080s are not quite as bad as henry makes out. -larry
#133146From: Allen L. GreenbergJul 4, 1988 10:24 AM
I have a 1084 right now, Larry, and an A500. I wouldn't trust myself to screw around with the circuitry. Commodore has changed amiga monitors so many times that I'm not sure what quality level was being sold at the time I purchased my amiga. Do you think I'd do better with an atari monitor? -allen
#133304From: John DraperJul 5, 1988 1:44 AM
Allen, I think it depends on what you think of the quality of the 1084 you have now and how much you are willing to spend to get another one. The only problem with going the Atari monitor route is the possibility of having to add some circuitry to make it work. You might ask Henry if he's seen any 1224s hooked up to a 500, and what was involved in doing it. -larry
#133399From: Allen L. GreenbergJul 5, 1988 6:09 PM
I've been trying to force the information out of him, but I think I'll drop the subject for the reasons you mention. One day I'll see an Amiga hooked up to some other monitor and if Henry's right I won't let the subject drop until I've dropped my 1084. Thanks. -allen
#133399From: Allen L. GreenbergJul 5, 1988 6:09 PM
I've been trying to force the information out of him, but I think I'll drop the subject for the reasons you mention. One day I'll see an Amiga hooked up to some other monitor and if Henry's right I won't let the subject drop until I've dropped my 1084. Thanks. -allen
#133304From: John DraperJul 5, 1988 1:44 AM
Allen, I think it depends on what you think of the quality of the 1084 you have now and how much you are willing to spend to get another one. The only problem with going the Atari monitor route is the possibility of having to add some circuitry to make it work. You might ask Henry if he's seen any 1224s hooked up to a 500, and what was involved in doing it. -larry
#133146From: Allen L. GreenbergJul 4, 1988 10:24 AM
I have a 1084 right now, Larry, and an A500. I wouldn't trust myself to screw around with the circuitry. Commodore has changed amiga monitors so many times that I'm not sure what quality level was being sold at the time I purchased my amiga. Do you think I'd do better with an atari monitor? -allen
#133160From: Henry ColonnaJul 4, 1988 11:17 AM
The newer style Atari monitors are also much better than the 1080/1084, but you have to buy it from a dealer who is willing to take the plastic case off and adjust the focus, brightness, etc. inside the monitor. They come from the factory in bad shape (and look bad on ST's even.) Wonder why Atari doesn't pay someone $5 per hour just to adjust the monitors properly on the assembly line..
#133217From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 4, 1988 5:27 PM
Henry, Perhaps if you did the same adjustment procedures to a 1084, it too would look s ;;S_AMIG: – Job 18: You've now got access to AmigaVendor <Steve> ignificantly better. That would be the proper way to make the comparison. Both the 1224 and the 1084 (1080, 2022..whatever) off the shelf as received…or both after making optimal adjustments. Don
#133222From: Henry ColonnaJul 4, 1988 5:37 PM
Well, you -could- be right, but I must say that for some reason there are a whole lot of UNadjusted 108? monitors, and alot of adjusted SC1224 monitors out there for some reason.
#133266From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 5, 1988 12:15 AM
Henry, Well…as you say, your dealership adjusts all the 1224's that come in (the new model) because they aren't real hot from the factory. That's one dealership. What about the rest? I know that every 'new' 1224 I've seen looks horrible, but all the 'old' 1224's looked great. I know my dealer doesn't do any adjustments on them or the Amgia monitors….and looking at them side by side, there is very little difference in picture quality. Don
#133340From: Henry ColonnaJul 5, 1988 7:57 AM
That's too bad Don, your dealer should take a lesson from us. 🙂
#133340From: Henry ColonnaJul 5, 1988 7:57 AM
That's too bad Don, your dealer should take a lesson from us. 🙂
#133266From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 5, 1988 12:15 AM
Henry, Well…as you say, your dealership adjusts all the 1224's that come in (the new model) because they aren't real hot from the factory. That's one dealership. What about the rest? I know that every 'new' 1224 I've seen looks horrible, but all the 'old' 1224's looked great. I know my dealer doesn't do any adjustments on them or the Amgia monitors….and looking at them side by side, there is very little difference in picture quality. Don
#133222From: Henry ColonnaJul 4, 1988 5:37 PM
Well, you -could- be right, but I must say that for some reason there are a whole lot of UNadjusted 108? monitors, and alot of adjusted SC1224 monitors out there for some reason.
#133217From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 4, 1988 5:27 PM
Henry, Perhaps if you did the same adjustment procedures to a 1084, it too would look s ;;S_AMIG: – Job 18: You've now got access to AmigaVendor <Steve> ignificantly better. That would be the proper way to make the comparison. Both the 1224 and the 1084 (1080, 2022..whatever) off the shelf as received…or both after making optimal adjustments. Don
#133160From: Henry ColonnaJul 4, 1988 11:17 AM
The newer style Atari monitors are also much better than the 1080/1084, but you have to buy it from a dealer who is willing to take the plastic case off and adjust the focus, brightness, etc. inside the monitor. They come from the factory in bad shape (and look bad on ST's even.) Wonder why Atari doesn't pay someone $5 per hour just to adjust the monitors properly on the assembly line..
#133136From: John DraperJul 4, 1988 2:56 AM
Allen, You will need to change the plug on one end, and perhaps (depending on your Amiga), need to do some other mods. Mine works fine on my 1000, but will not work on the 2000. I haven't looked into it yet. I do have a 1902, which is effectively a 1080 without the analog RGB circuitry. I added the circuitry myself, and am using it on the 2000. Depending on the 1080 you have, it will range from awful to 'pretty good'. The older style Atari monitor was better than any 1080 (but not better than the 1070), but the better 1080s are not quite as bad as henry makes out. -larry