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#New Product Announcement

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#35035From: Clint H. WoeltjenJun 18, 1990 4:40 PM
New Product Announcement! ————————- Virtual Reality Laboratories, Inc., publishers of Distant Suns, proudly announce the release of Vista. Vista is a unique landscape generation program which can use United States Geological Survey Digital Elevation Mapping data to produce realistic looking 3 dimensional landscapes. It produces output either as IFF HAM, or Turbo Silver Object. Vista also has a feature that allows the user to generate random 'fractal' landscapes. It comes complete with 8 data sets, including DEM data for Olympus Mons on Mars. At finest resolution, the 3-D picture contains 133000 polygons, which provides gorgeous realism, bordering on surrealism. List price is $99.95.
#35037From: Kevin DarlingJun 18, 1990 5:14 PM
Interesting. Where would one get more USGS data if they wished? thx
#35048From: Clint H. WoeltjenJun 18, 1990 8:50 PM
Kevin: We (VRLI) are in the process of obtaining additional USGS data for interesting areas within the US, around the world, undersea data, and planetary data for Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars and several satellites of Jupiter and Saturn. We will have disks available within 60 days I expect, and will continue to make more available as soon as we get the data translated. For those who want to do it themselves, the USGS in Flagstaff, Arizona has DEM data available on tape, and we will gladly supply our format info to those interested. Clint <VRLI>
#35060From: Bill ForcadeJun 19, 1990 12:55 AM
Clint: Please keep us informed on the USGS data files you have for release, and do upload those IFF files. By the way, USGS puts out a fair number of CD-ROM disks, do you have plans to try using an SCSI version of the drive hooked to an Amiga to utilize data with your programs ?
#35074From: Clint H. WoeltjenJun 19, 1990 12:34 PM
Bill: I'll post an announcement whenever we get more data available. Yes, we are looking into a CD-ROM version for displaying 'flight paths'. Our data is USGS with our own header info (for coloring etc.), so reading their CD-ROM direct could have problems. We will send this header info to anyone interested with playing with it. Clint <VRLI>
#35098From: Lou WallaceJun 19, 1990 10:16 PM
When you can, please send info on this to Amiga World's New product editor, Jan Jackson… – Lou
#35109From: Clint H. WoeltjenJun 20, 1990 12:20 AM
Lou: I think Susie already has, but I'll check to be sure. Thanks, Clint <VRLI>
#35094From: Ray LewisJun 19, 1990 8:53 PM
What iff image resolutions do you support? Can it generate convincing landscapes in hi-res interlace? ?|^] Ray Lewis
#35108From: Clint H. WoeltjenJun 20, 1990 12:18 AM
Ray: Currently uses 320 x 200 HAM. This was best we could do and still work on a 1 meg machine. A version that requires more memory and generates 500000 polygons and 320 x 400 is being looked at. Clint <VRLI>
#35536From: robert fisherJul 1, 1990 11:52 AM
Vista will produce output in TSilver Object format? I guess that means we can render Olympus Mons in Stereo 3D (Haitex) format, throw in some flying saucers and have some real fun! And to think, I picked up the package in the store yesterday, knew nothing about it, and put it back. By the time I get back there, they probably won't have any copies left! THANK YOU for the Turbo Silver Object option. What a GREAT idea! Robert Fisher
#35538From: Clint H. WoeltjenJul 1, 1990 1:11 PM
Robert: The only 'problem' with the Turbo Silver Object, is the memory required by Turbo Silver to load a Vista output. At res 1, Vista produces 133000 polygons, and TS would theoretically require 40megs of memory to render it. At res 2, TS requires about 8megs, and at res 4 about 2megs. We are looking into ways to allow you to cut out a portion of a landscape to help TS be able to handle it better. Clint <VRLI>
#35601From: robert fisherJul 2, 1990 9:04 PM
Hmmm… Kind of limits what you can do on a wimpy 5 meg machine. Well, I think I'll still run out and get a copy as soon as I can. Keep up the good work! Robert
#35619From: Clint H. WoeltjenJul 3, 1990 12:47 AM
Robert: We haven't given up trying to find other solutions, but when dealing with that many polygons, alot of memory is required. I encourage people to post 'wish lists' of features and capabilities they wish Vista had. We will compile such lists and as time permits, they will become reality. (Virtually) <grin> Clint <VRLI>
#36007From: Andre PageJul 9, 1990 5:18 AM
Have you sent press releases to magazines like Computer Graphics World? They have promised more Amiga coverage and they would eat up something like this!!!
#36022From: Clint H. WoeltjenJul 9, 1990 12:08 PM
Andre: If you could email us an address or FAX number for Computer Graphics World, we'll send a press release. We sent them to all Amiga specific publications, but are unfamiliar with what's out there in the rest of the graphics universe. Clint <VRLI>
#36717From: Andre PageJul 26, 1990 5:16 AM
Just as I suspected. I subscribe to a bunch of "Graphics" type magazines and almost never see anything from Amiga vendors in any of them. Most of these are Trade Magazines that are mostly press releases anyway and would probably print Stuff about Amigas if they ever got anything. I don't want to get on your case in particular… But it seems to me that most Amiga developers have a somewhat limited view of the marketplace. People want the Amiga to be accepted by the general computer public and then send their press releases to Amiga World and Amazing Computing and think they have it covered. Anyway, here are a few I would recommend for just about anyone to send press releases & product information to: Computer Graphics World (includes NCGA newsletter) One Technology Park Drive, POB 987 Westford, MA 01886 508-692-0700 FAX: 508-692-0525 Graphic Design USA 120 East 56th Street New York, NY 10022 212-759-8813 Fax: 212-753-5990 Computer Graphics Review (Computer Graphics World clone) Intertec Publishing Company 9221 Quivera Road Overland Park, KS 66215 Electronic Publishing & Printing Maclean Hunter Publishing Co. 29 N. Wacker Dr. Chicago, IL 60606 Desktop Communications 48 East 43rd Street New York, NY 10017 212-867-9650 Publish (staunch Mac/IBM :-)) Editorial Department 501 Second Street San Francisco, CA 94107 415-243-0600 FAX:415-442-1891 Computer Shopper (open minded but mostly IBM, some Amiga) Ziff Davis Publishing Co. One Park Avenue, 5th Floor New York, NY 10016 212-503-5319 TypeWorld (they'll print anything in DTP) One Stiles Road P.O. Box 170 Salem, NH 03079 603-898-2822 FAX: 603-898-3393 (highly recommended for anyone interested in DTP) That should get anyone started. There are dozens more but this is costing me money to type all this in. You can get reference books in the library that list ALL kinds of magazines. I'm sure you could find a few more of interest! Anyone need a Press Agent??? ?
#36724From: Clint H. WoeltjenJul 26, 1990 1:20 PM
Thanks, Andre! Most of the publishers in the Amiga community are like us, VERY SMALL. We can barely afford to advertize in the Amiga only publications, as ad rates in PC publications are orders of magnitude higher. I will pass this list on to marketing, and she will send out copies of our press release. Don't hold your breath expecting them to actually get it in print, as our press releases often don't make it to print in the Amiga publications. I figure if 20% of them even mention us, that'll be very good. Your ideas are great for a larger company with time and money to burn, but for a small company where everyone works 16 hours/day 7 days a week and barely squeaks by paying salaries, it may be a bit impractical. Clint <VRLI>
#36729From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSJul 26, 1990 5:40 PM
Gee, you left out Computer Gaming World <ducking> –Eet– Director of Mayhem Extra Terrestrial Imports, Ltd.
#36765From: Bob LindstromJul 28, 1990 11:19 AM
Andre: Sincere thanks for describing Computer Shopper as "open minded." We try our best to be. It's true that we are mostly an IBM book. However, I personally am a big Amiga fanatic (did the Amiga music for some Cinemaware projects, in fact) and used to write for AmigaWorld and INFO in my freelance days. Look forward in upcoming Shopper issues to more emphasis on Amiga hardware coverage! I'm putting out some effort in the coming months to beef up the Amiga coverage. I can't add a lot more pages, but I can hit some product-related topics that aren't being fully covered elsewhere. You won't see the results, however, for about 3-4 months (due to our lead time and the time required to put some of this stuff together.) In the meantime, we continue to feature a monthly Amiga column by Peggy Herrington, one of the best in the business. And I even find space to mention the Amiga in my editorial. A few issues back, for instance, I sang the praises of WHAP! and, more recently, positively commented on the Amiga's multitasking operating system compared to the less robust multitasking of Windows 3.0 and Macintosh Multifinder. Let me know if our upcoming efforts meet with your approval (or disapproval). That invitation, of course, extends to all members of the Amiga forum. Best, Bob Lindstrom Editor in Chief Computer Shopper 1 Park Ave., 11th Floor New York City, NY 10016
#36787From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Jul 29, 1990 12:28 AM
Bob, It is great seeing more Amiga material in Computer Shopper. Keep it up! 🙂 Rich
#36808From: Leslie T. BartiromoJul 29, 1990 1:38 PM
Thanks for the Amiga coverage! WE NEED THE GOOD PRESS AND DESERVE IT!!! (but I guess you know that already.) Which issue did you compare Amiga's multitasking with Windows & Multifinder? Was it in an editorial? I have a staunch Mac owner and an avid IBM user that should read this! (Of course, before I got an Amiga I thought there would be little use for multitasking. Now, I don't know what I'd do without it.) Thanks again for the Amiga support.