Networked CD-ROM
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Steve,
I recently installed Windows for Workgroups. I can read the the files on a
Nautilus disc from a machine that is sharing its cd-rom drive with another
machine. However I can't run the Nautilus application from the remote
machine. Is there anything special needed or is this not possible yet (I
know there are RPCs in the works for Windows). I'm in the process of
getting a new cd-rom drive for the remote machine, so it's no big deal to
do this, I was just curious.
Paul
Paul,
Good question. We haven't tested under the scenario you describe. I'll
have to try that out and see what happens.
What occurs when you "can't run the Nautilus application from the remote
machine?"
– Lupes
May I add a comment? I am encountering the same problem trying to access
Nautilus on a shared CDROM drive on a Novell Network. I also have a CDROM
in my workstation on which I can run Nautilus just fine. Howevever, when I
try to run it thru the network, Nautilus complains that my networked CDROM,
mapped to a drive such as L, is not a valid CDROM drive. It appears that
Nautilus checks for an actual internal drive before it allows the
application to start. Is there any way of getting around the check. For
example, is there a way of telling the MS Multimedia extensions MSCDEX that
drive L is a valid CDROM drive, thereby satisfying Nautilus.
Peter
Actually, you *can* bypass the drive-letter check. Try this.
1. Open NAUTILUS Startup.
2. Now, hold down the Control key down while exiting (choosing Exit from the
System menu or using Alt-F4)… yes, I know, real intuitive. But it was a back
end trick I added for a "just in case" kind of scenario – such as this!
3. You will now find a NAUTILUS.INI file in the same directory as Startup.tbk.
Open this file (using Notepad or whatever) and you will find a line that says:
Romdrive=L:\
or something similar.
4. Change the romdrive= parameter to whatever letter is appropriate.
5. Restart Nautilus Startup. This should bypass the validation check.
Let me know how that works for you.
Margo Riedel
Nautilus
I tried the procedure and sure enough, it works! Thankyou. Now, I better
make sure I don't lose my copy of your note.
Peter —
I'm glad it worked. <whew… that was a close one!>
BTW, you must be a real "rock" with a name like 'Peter Simon' …
Margo Riedel
Nautilus
Steve and Margo,
Thank you for the network solution. It works beautifully. Now I have
Nautilus running on my new machine. I have a graphics bug with Toolbook
with the new machine (Gateway 2000 486/66 Local Bus with the ATI Graphics
Ultra Pro VLB). The file folder bitmap (the gray portion underlying the
file listings) and various button graphics appear at other places on the
screen. This may be a video driver problem and I thought I report it here.
I'm sorry that Mr. Pitsch is upset with my using this section. I was afraid
this might happen. All I can suggest is that if possible, that the
subscribers to Nautilus, such as myself, be given a section where we can
communicate with fellow subscribers who want to keep in touch. I've found
the companionship and information shared as valuable as the subscription
itself.
Thank you,
Paul
Paul,
Several months ago, I found this forum and was disappointed that there
was so little traffic in the Nautilus area. I quit coming, because I don't
like to pay online charges for customer service messages. Maybe, with a
core of enthusiastic subscribers, we can generate enough interesting
discussion to attract other happy customers, sell a few subscriptions for
Margo and Steve, and make it worthwhile for Michael to mark participation
threads rather than the entire section.
Discussing the performance of Nautilus on our different types of
equipment has tremendous benefits–it's the quickest way there is of
finding out whether a problem is in the equipment or the software. BTW, I
was fascinated by Margo's solution to your networking problem, as it is
something that may turn up when my husband sets up a network between our
486 and semi-retired XT.
Lynne
Lynne,
Thanks Lynne, I was feeling pretty badly last night after reading Mike's
message to Kevin and I. I forget that many people don't have TAPCIS or
other thread managers to reduce their costs. I hope I didn't offend anyone
with my political commentary. I just hope that both parties take the
iniative to fix the country and do it with integrity.
Margo has a few tricks up her sleeve concerning networking. I now have a
nautilus.ini file that I can manually adjust to configure the cd-rom drive.
I don't have my Multisound card yet, so I can't use all the multimedia
features yet. I've been using the MS speaker driver, but it is limited (it
can't play stereo wave files, midi and video files). I guess having a
network for a home system is a bit unusual, but it is a convenient way to
use all the equipment I have.
Paul
Paul,
Ray is busy with his Windows NT installation, and won't get to the
network "just for fun" for a while yet. But I think your idea of using the
older computer as a storage area is excellent, and I'm now in favor of the
project (rather than just humoring him). This matters, because we will
probably have cables running up and down our stairwell. And of course I'm
going to try experimenting with CDROM on the system–because I'm already
filling up a 360 meg hard disk!
I'm keeping "When in ROM" on my sections list, so that I don't miss
any of the discussions about whatever happens to be the topic of the moment
. . Right now, of course, "ROM" appears to be totally empty.
Lynne
Lynne,
I checked out that section too. You're right about it being empty. You're
right about the disks filling up. Everytime I add something nowadays it
seems like it uses 10 megabytes at a crack. If you're getting a new cr-rom
drive make sure it works with NT first.
I wasn't sure that I could share a cd-rom drive as I had tried to using
Nautilus. If it wasn't for Margo's tip, I wouldn't have known it could be
done. Now, all I have to do is figure out how to get Cinemania, Bookshelf,
etc. to do the same.
Dallas by 10.
Paul
>>Right now, of course, "ROM" appears to be totally empty.<<
Lynne:
I'm not surprized (;{)]
Who's going to read a general bulls**t section when they can read a
section like this with _specific_ bulls**t? I guess we should mention
something about the disk of the month in each of our messages. Sort of the
old gag about taking someone out to lunch and having him ask you how's
business so you could write it off.
So, did you get the E-Book Peter to run? Mine kept crashing after
the intro.
Say, how about those Niners!
-Ed
Ed,
The impression I got is that we're welcome here and it's ok to be
ourselves. I wasn't sure of that until you guys spoke up and the sysops
supported you. I've only been active in the forums for a couple of months,
so what do I know about etiquette? I hope we don't have to talk business
all the time. Your good humor keeps me stitches as usual. Keep up the good
work.
Paul
Paul —
I'm glad to hear the solution worked for you. Could you do me the favor of
letting me know how "well" that works. I've never talked to anyone running a
CDROM application across a network and I'm very curious as to the performance
issues.
I would suspect the ToolBook problem you mention is really a video driver
problem (which you also mention). 99.99% of the time this is the case (I won't
go so far as to say %100, but it's almost *ALWAYS* solved by an updated video
driver). Sounds like you've a real sweet machine though…!
Paul, you mention that "Mr. Pitsch" is upset… I must have missed that part of
the thread, can you elaborate as to what the problem is. This section of this
forum is, of course, all about Nautilus and is available for the purposes you
describe. Please let me know what was said (feel free to Email me, if
appropriate) so that I can follow this up properly.
Anything else we can do for you…?!
Margo Riedel
Nautilus
Margo,
I'm waiting for my Multisound card to come in so I can't tell you how well
everything performs yet. However using Windows for Workgroups and the Intel
card that comes with the kit, Toolbook performs well in file access to the
cdrom drive. I'll let you know how well other features work when all the
pieces are together.
BTW, I had to put the AT P command before the telephone number for Nautilus
Link to use pulse dialing on your volume 3_1.
I have no problem to report regarding Mr. Pitsch. He simply wishes some
brevity and relevency to our messages.
Paul
ATI is still reporting some driver problems, and I assume these would
be more acute with the local bus, since that's a far newer technology all
around.
At least it's working. Had to yank my wonderful #9 TIGA board and FedEx
it back to #9 for repair this evening. It became convinced it was in a dual
monitor setup no matter what, so the only way to run Windows was to go back
and physically unplug the connector and replug it into the other jack!
Sigh…. Hard to get used to a mere 1024 X 768 again….
Jack,
I think there are a lot of driver problems to be resolved this year. ATI,
as you already may know, has promised a multimedia video driver to ship in
February. As you know, the addition of Video for Windows has really put a
strain on the drivers currently out there. Are you upgrading or just
repairing the TIGA?
Paul
Peter,
PMJI re. your problem of using Nautilus on CDROM on Novell, but what are
you using as your LAN CD product, e.g., SCSI EXPRESS, CD-NET, OPTI-NET, and
is it the newer NLM version?
We're about to select on of these for our Novell LAN, and it is precisely
this fear of not being able to run certain CDs because of lack of "real"
MSCDEX etc that we're worried about. Can you elaborate on your setup and
give me whatever advice etc please. Tanx
// Gerry