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Amiga2.0

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#28240From: david buckalewJul 11, 1991 5:23 PM
I'm going crazy waiting for AmigaDos 2.0. I know that the A3000 ships with it, but I would like to retro-fit my A2000. Does anyone know when 2.0 will be available on in ROM? Even a disk version would get me through, but as far as I know, that's not available either. I've been told that the reason 2.0 is not available is that there are compatibility problems. If this is the case, why is Commodore shipping the A3000 with it? Or am I mistaken on that note? I've seen 2.0-compatible software, so someone has to have it, unless developers are using Beta copies. Is this the case? I'm interested in developing 2.0 applications. Is it possible for me to get a Beta copy?
#28249From: Bob RakoskyJul 11, 1991 7:13 PM
David, 2.0 has not yet been released to the public, except for the 3000. The reason for this is that is has not been ready to burn into ROMS (until recently). CBM did not want to burn the ROMs prematurely, as that would have caused more problems than it was worth. The 3000 was an exception because the new hardware design really needed some features that were not in 1.3. Also, since the 3000 has a built-in MMU, it was an easy (relatively) job for CBM to support a disk-based image of the Kickstart. Also, I believe that CBM thought that 2.0 would have been ready a lot earlier (like when the 3000 was scheduled to ship). They missed that one 🙂 Preliminary beta copies have been available to registered developers. There are (and have been) risks involved with running the beta versions, and the developers have been made aware of the potential dangers and of various precautions one should take. You can contact Commodore about becoming a registered developer – the cost is reasonable ($75 per year). Or you can just be "just a little bit more patient", as all signs indicate that 2.0 should be apparing "very very real soon now", although nothing "official" has been announced by Commodore. Hope this helps…. …BobR
#28796From: John P. HustonJul 15, 1991 8:21 AM
Bob, You wouldn't by chance have the address/person to write to for becoming a developer, would you? I've been wanting to get into Amiga Development for some time now, but just have never gotten serious about it. Spending some money to register as a developer would light a fire under my butt to get me back to work <grin>!! Thanks, John
#28803From: David ArtJul 15, 1991 10:39 AM
John, You can request a developer application by writing to: CATS – Administration Commodore Business Machines 1200 Wilson Drive West Chester, PA 19380 Hope this helps, 8) David – via Whap!
#28814From: John P. HustonJul 15, 1991 1:13 PM
David, Thanks for the information! Now I suppose I'd better get serious about my Amiga Development again <g>!! Maybe this go-around I'll get my idea to work and have an appliction running by Christmas…. John
#28865From: David ArtJul 15, 1991 11:22 PM
John, I'll be looking forward to your application. If it's not to early to disclose, what type of application would you be developing? David – via Whap!
#28911From: John P. HustonJul 16, 1991 8:21 AM
David, I'd like to develop an CIM-type interface for the Amiga using the HMI protocol. Unfortunately, there is no HMI toolbox for the Amiga so I have to develop that from scratch <sigh>. Then I have to show the folks here that "Hey…I did CIM for the Amiga! Can I release it as ShareWare?" I don't know how long the process will take, but it's going to be a good learning exercise if nothing else <grin>!! I'm also interested in developing some MIDI software, first of which will be a sample player that can sit and multitask so sequencers can access it just like it would a keyboard/rack module. So much to do…and SO little time!! John
#28957From: David ArtJul 16, 1991 10:01 PM
John, Although I (and I'm certain many others) would welcome an HMI product for the Amiga, I've _heard_ (and I stress _heard_) that CIS has been insistant in the past about requiring that any HMI software using only their supplied library functions. Since there's no CIS supplied Amiga HMI library, nobody has been able to develop any HMI software. You might consider checking with them beforehand, to save yourself a lot of work. (Personally, I'd really like to see such a product.) I'm a MIDI-type myself. 8) David – via Whap!
#28964From: John P. HustonJul 16, 1991 10:40 PM
David, Yeah…I know about the policy as I work for CS. I'm hoping to develop the HMI library, application, and then go to someone and say "Here you are! Go ahead and put the toolbox in the Developer's Forum!!" I really don't think developing the micro toolbox is going to be that big of a deal. Unfortunately, the Amiga is not a targeted development platform. But that doesn't mean I can't try to do some development in my spare time <grin>!! It does mean that anything I develop can benefit the Amiga comm community, since a toolbox will then be available. Anyway, that's the story where HMI is concerned. It _could_ be done, but only if I get the time to do it. I've asked before about doing something like this, and was given the "Sure…if you have time and want to play around, go ahead". Hopefully, given my current schedule, I can get a prototype going by Christmas. If you'd like (and I'm allowed) I'll let you try out a version…when I get something put together that is <grin>!!
#28965From: David ArtJul 16, 1991 10:44 PM
Great! 8) Please put me on your list of testers. (sorry, I didn't notice your user id before.)
#29199From: Vic WagnerJul 18, 1991 5:50 PM
Good Luck getting the HMI spec from CIS. I sent FEEDBACK a message only two days ago about the lack, and got back a message saying they really couldn't afford to write CIM for the Amiga (they simply do NOT understand)
#29231From: David ArtJul 18, 1991 8:39 PM
Right. We aren't asking them for CIM, just for HMI.