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#Imagine

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#25155From: Joshua ThompsonJul 11, 1991 6:35 PM
Is 1.1 the latest revision for Imagine?
#25160From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Jul 11, 1991 9:45 PM
Yes it is. –Rick
#25175From: Mike SchillerJul 12, 1991 12:38 AM
Rick: When I last spoke to Mike at Impulse (the programmer, not the boss) he said that they were thinking of adding control of the VD-1 into Light24 in a similiar way to the way they're going to control the Epson scanner. Have you heard any more about this? I sure would like to be able to throw away the Digi, Freeze, Live, VDZ programs and do it all within Light24! Also, will the release version be usable from the WB as well as the CLI or will it still be CLI only like the version that came with the FC24?
#25192From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Jul 12, 1991 8:14 PM
Mike, I haven't heard about any VD1 support, but I sure would like a reason to keep that old beast around. –Rick
#25195From: Mike SchillerJul 12, 1991 10:54 PM
Rick: If you'd really like to keep the VD1 around, then make sure and let them know, as I know they were (might still be) considering it. Personally I like the VD1 both as a digitizer, as well as a display unit (of course, it's not as nice as the FC24 for output, but it's as good as any other NTSC output device), although if they do support the VD1 in Light24 it'd probably be as an input only device. 🙁
#25186From: John PendergrassJul 12, 1991 11:37 AM
Joshua, 1.1 is the latest version of Imagine. But there is a note in Louis Markoya's 'MapMaster for Image' product (well worth purchasing, BTW) which states that if you are using an early FP version of Imagine 1.1, there is a potentially fatal bug that you can run across with Altitude mapping. If your Imagine 1.1 FP program is 483,764 bytes long then you have the OLD version, and should request the new version. Send back the orignal disk and a self-addressed, stamped envelope to Impulse and they'll send you the corrected version. BTW, the length of the corrected Imaging 1.1 FP program is 483,772 bytes.
#25231From: robert fisherJul 14, 1991 11:19 AM
John, I wish someone had mentioned this bug a few weeks ago! I went nuts trying to figure out if it was just me or my machine or whatever! By the way, the bug also exists in the Integer version of 1.1 shipped at the same time. Robert Fisher
#25232From: John PendergrassJul 14, 1991 1:01 PM
Well, Glad it helped you. I don't really know what the bug was, except what was described in the MapMaster manual. Never ran across it myself. –jp–seattle–
#25233From: Dan McCoyJul 14, 1991 1:01 PM
A friend of mine mentioned this bug to me after reading the stuff with Map Master and I called Impulse up to get the scoop and was told there was no bug and that I couldn't duplicate the problem if I tried. Hmmm. There is no way I want to encounter this bug either! Guess I'll just send my disk in attached to a wish list (like better phone support). Dan McCoy – via Whap! and saving money doing it too!
#25235From: John PendergrassJul 14, 1991 8:36 PM
Gee, better phone support from Impulse? Actually I've found their phone support generally OK, but their WRITTEN support abysmal. I've taken the time (at least three times over 1.5 years) to write succinct letters to them, regarding: 1) upgrade availability to several products (I didn't know if they had ever been upgraded, 2) bugs in existing programs , and 3) offering suggestions for their products. Never heard ONE word back from them any time at all. I can understand their not caring about my suggestions, but am disappointed that they cannot respond to basic marketing questions from a pretty good customer. If they checked their product registrations, they would find me plenty times! (not that it should make any difference actually) Nuff griping. Re the altitude mapping 'bug'. I have the 'old' version of Imagine, according to the MapMaster notation (483,764 bytes). Cannot recall crashing, even thougth I have used altitude mapping several times. Obviously have not used it as much as L. Markoya, so maybe he has found some 'occaisonal bug'. The fact that there is a 'new' version (at 483,772 bytes) gives credence to Louis's claim of a bug. I wonder why Impulse denied it, rather than just saying to send in the disk? –jp–seattle–
#25240From: Mike KochJul 14, 1991 10:40 PM
jp, Just FYI, my copy of ImagineFP is 483,920 bytes. I purchased it from my dealer less than a month ago. I know that he didn't have it on his shelf too long, so I'm assuming that it's the most recent version. I've been very interested in purchasing both Surface Master and Map Master. Are these products only available directly from Mr. Markoya, or can my dealer get them for me? My local dealer is an authorized Amiga dealer, but I also sometimes go up to Briwall, which is only a half-hour's drive from my place. Mike
#25246From: John PendergrassJul 15, 1991 12:17 AM
Well! Another contender for the most current 'Imagine'. Maybe a call to Impulse is in order here? I'm not sure if MapMaster or SurfaceMaster is available from mail-order or dealers, or just direct. You might leave Louis Markoya an EMail and ask him for ordering info (price/address). His CIS ID is: 75766,504 They are certainly worth having for any serious Imagine user. Saves ooodles of time in figuring these things out! TTFN –jp–seattle–
#25273From: Mark SterlingJul 16, 1991 8:14 AM
JOHN, Are we talking about the integer or floating point versions of Imagine 1.1? Some people are undoubtedly running Imagine on unaccellerated machines. My integer version of 1.1 is 488212 bytes. The FP version is at home right now. ….Mark
#25283From: John PendergrassJul 16, 1991 3:43 PM
Mark, everything so far has related to the FP version of Imagine. Don't know about the integer version, except that someone else posted that it too had the 'altitude' map problem. I talked with Impulse yesterday, asking about this – is there a bug in Imagine re altitude mapping? They answered they knew of none, but the program has undergone several revisions (the 1.1 version, that is). If anyone wants to make sure they have the most current, then mail your original disk back to them, with a stamped return envelope, and they will upgrade it to the most current version for free, and mail it back. Do include the STAMPED return envelope though! Hope above settles it. I don't know if there was a problem or not. I will send my disk back, however, just to be sure 🙂 –jp–seattle–
#25300From: Mark SterlingJul 17, 1991 8:51 AM
John, Thanks for the info. I will probably send my disk back to get the latest revision as I plan to use the altitude mapping. I only use the FP version but have the integer version on my machine at work (68000 only) for some reason that escapes me now. ….Mark
#25338From: GUILLERMO LORENZOJul 18, 1991 11:57 AM
HI, MY VERSION IS 1.0 AND FP IS 463632 BYTES. !
#25319From: Karl SparklinJul 17, 1991 8:56 PM
Mike, I've seen both Surface Master and Map Master at my dealer's. Or, you can get them directly from Louis' company, Computer Imagery. Great products. Karl – via Whap!
#25625From: Jim HatcherJul 28, 1991 7:01 PM
well, just to get my two cents in, I just recieved my copy of Imagine this past Wednesday, and the FP version (1.1) file size is 484,052… Do I win the prize!?!?! 🙂 I am planning on getting the video, since the manuals aren't much help… has anybody found it helpfull? later…… JWH
#25645From: R.SATOHJul 29, 1991 1:55 AM
Video is probably too introductory. I suggest you get Imagine companion or Buddy System + Mapping and Surfacing is whole different ball game, Louis Markoya's Map Master and Surface Master are good. You should look into one of these instead of Video. – via Whap!
#25773From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Aug 6, 1991 7:58 PM
Jim, you must be referring to the Centaur video tape. "Imagine: the Possib lities, Vol. 1" from VRS Media has tips for every level of user. –Rick Rodriguez
#25792From: Charles BlaquiereAug 7, 1991 12:44 PM
Rawl, warning — I bought the Centaur videotape ("Imagine: a guided tour") and was disappointed. It's strictly a beginner-type tutorial, and I can't recall seeing anything worthwhile that wasn't covered in the Tutorial manual. Rick's tape, however, is chock full of tips and important information for the user who knows his way around Imagine and would like to start putting its myriad features through their paces. Both tapes have a place in this world, but to be honest the Centaur tape is basically a rehash of the manual. I turned around and sold it pronto. Blaq! – via Whap!
#26376From: Jim HatcherAug 26, 1991 9:59 PM
yep, I've heard the same thing from others… that the video is kinda basic… I've ordered The Imagine Companion and am looking forward to getting it!! Jim
#26454From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Aug 28, 1991 10:22 PM
Jim, remember that there are two tapes available for Imagine. Impulse only sells my video "Imagine: the Possibilities, Vol. 1," which is quite advanced. Vol. 2 will focus on animation and should be available by year's end along with Imagine 2.0. –Rick Rodriguez VRS MEDIA
#25297From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Jul 17, 1991 7:39 AM
Dan, the bug in this very early version of 1.1 is esoteric. I only encountered it when attempting to use Lou's MapMaster files. If you don't intend to do multiple altitude brush mapping, don't sweat it. If you intend to purchase MapMaster and emulate Lou Markoya's master works, then by all means get the new revision. –Rick