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#Xetec CD Rom Drive

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#29528From: John GagerJul 21, 1991 1:05 AM
Here is an update on interfacing my Xetec CD Rom drive to a Bridgeboard for those of you who may be interested. Does it work –YES and very well. All you need to do is purchase the Chinon SCSI controller for the IBM side, run the install software, and you are all set. The Chinon package from Xetec is about $50 and includes the controller, software, and a Sampler CD Rom. If you have the CDX-650E (External) drive, you will need a special cable to go from the Chinon controller to the drive because the controller uses a weird 37 pin SCSI connector for external drives. It's about $35 from Xetec, and be sure you mention that you need the cable when you order the Chinon package because it's not included. I've got the drive setup to go through an A/B switch so when I want to use the Xetec drive on the Amiga/IBM side it's just a matter of flipping the switch. Works well but I wouldn't recommend trying to switch while the Amiga's power is on. I've only got 2 IBM CD's to play around with right now, but will getting a few in a bundle deal I've ordered so I'll let you know how they work out. The Sampler CD works fine, but it does check to see if you have EGA, and if not, it doesn't run all of the demo. I believe the Janus software only supports CGA. Has anyone heard whether or not the new Janus software will support EGA? Anyway, I think you would be better off putting in a VGA card in your IBM side for the CD Rom stuff. But since I have a 3000, my 2 IBM slots are full, so unless I can figure out a way to extend the IBM side, I'll have to stick with the software emulation for the Video. So that's the latest. Next project is to get Amax and try setting up my CD drive on the Mac side….Hehe "Only on the Amiga" 8^)
#29529From: Ramanjeet Singh AnandJul 21, 1991 1:19 AM
DO you know if Xetec CD driver works with Toshiba XM3301 CDROM and GVPII controller? I have the Hypermedia's driver and above package. Now I found out,after purchasing the drivers, that my GVPII (nor my Supra WORDSYNC) controller is not supported by Hypermedia's driver. Also would you know if its possible to buy the Xetec driver seperately? Raman
#29544From: John GagerJul 21, 1991 4:02 AM
Raman, although the Xetec driver does work with the GVP Series II and the Supra Wordsync, I'm not sure if it would work with the Toshiba drive. The drive that is used with the Xetec is a Chinon 450, so maybe their software will only work with that drive. Also I'm not sure if they sell the driver seperately. You might try calling their BBS (913)-827-1974 and ask them directly. Or if you would like, I can post the questions for you. John (in beautiful downtown Walla Walla) – via Whap!
#29567From: Ramanjeet Singh AnandJul 21, 1991 12:53 PM
Thanks John… I will call them myself as I have few other questions I want answered. Raman
#29553From: Michael GerardJul 21, 1991 9:18 AM
That's great… keep us informed on your progress.
#29556From: SyndesisJul 21, 1991 10:49 AM
Do you subscribe to this CD user group newsletter? What's in it? What sorts of CDs do you have now?
#29629From: John GagerJul 22, 1991 1:27 AM
Fred has not really set up a subsription to the newsletter yet. For the time being it is sent free to anyone interested in CD Rom's, and anyone who order's some CD's from him is automatically a charter subscriber. He has a bundle of CD's for $69 which includes seven discs. 1. Complete copy of the KJV Bible, plus several small demo files including a movies database, and a stamp catalog to demonstrate the Romware search software. 2. The SIGCAT Software Showcase, a comparison of twelve CD-Rom search engines. 3. A recent issue of a quarterly commercial software demonstration service, Selectware. 4. A multimedia introduction to CD-Rom technology by Discovery Systems. 5. The CARRS-1 225 MB Shareware disc. 6. The sixth is the first issue of the quarterly Architectural CD magazine on a disc. 7. The September 1990 issue of the quarterly subscription service, Front Page News. Nothing spectacular, but probably worth the $69 just to get acquanted with CD Rom technology. Fred also describes some of the government CD's that are available. For example, the massive Congressional Record for the 99th Congress (2 discs) costs $40 from the Government Printing Office. Although I couldn't imagine anyone who could stand to read that garbage 8^) Fred also sells a CD Rom he has put together called the "Gigabyte Shareware" disc. It contains 6000 ZIP packages, each containing up to 150 individual files. Among the offerings is 77mb of Windows programs/utilities, 29mb of 421 PCX, 287 Gif, and 330 Mac images. 44mb of Games and Entertainment, 58mb of BBS related, 22mb of Communications programs/utils, 16mb of Language categories, 29mb of Business, 16mb of Graphics programs, and 50mb of several Utilities categories. The price of the Gigabyte disc is $99. He also has articles on a recent CD-Rom expo, reviews certain CD's, etc. Then at the end he has a list of used/new CD's he has for sale or trade. Go ahead and give Fred a call John. He will send you out a free copy of the newsletter as well as talk your ear off. He does love to chat 8^) For those of you who may read this thread, I posted a note to John in the CDROM forum, and he is replying to it here. So for others, contact Fred Bellomy of the CD Rom users group at (805)-965-0265 or FAX (805)-965-5415.
#29716From: SyndesisJul 22, 1991 10:22 PM
I did call him, before I read this posting. I ordered the $69 deal right away, he said it was an easy sell. 🙂 I had the EduCorp catalog, and called the Bureau of Electronic Publishing for one, too. Last night, I visited a good friend who used to work at the CD ROM mastering plant in the north woods of Wisconsin, and brought home a stack of completely unreadable pre-ISO, pre-Sierra disks, plus the last few Apple developer CDs. He doesn't have a CD ROM drive, actually, so he's not missing them. I may loan him my drive for a while. Geez, playing with CD ROMs can waste time severely… I lost two hours looking at just one Apple disk. They issue developer disks, what, quarterly? And Amiga Mail comes out and it's full of BS about … oh, don't get me started. 🙂
#29843From: John GagerJul 23, 1991 10:13 PM
Now what are you going to do with those pre-ISO CD's John? Use them for coasters around the house 8^) He has some other interesting CD's listed in the newsletter, such as "Between Heaven & Hell II", which I have no idea what that is. Maybe a CD in purgatory 8^) Also has a "Nasa Sampler" which is supposed to contain a bunch of spacey pics. And then he has one called "Terrorist Profiles", wonder if the CIA knows about this? They probably created it! And then a 10 disc pack called "Voyager Planets". Sounds like we can spend the next 5 years just going through those CD's. John (in beautiful downtown Walla Walla) – via Whap!
#29896From: Vic WagnerJul 24, 1991 3:35 PM
John, When I was last up at JPL, the librarian indicated that the NASA would be publishing ALL of its planetary pictures on CD. I sure hope those "Voyager Planets" CDs are the start of that project. How much do they cost??
#29900From: John GagerJul 24, 1991 3:44 PM
Vic, don't have the newsletter with me right now, so not sure on the price of the "Voyager Planets". I think it was something along the lines of $350 for a 10 CD Rom set. I'll look it up tonight and make sure. By the way, I'm going to be late with my C homework for the first class. I didn't get the lecture downloaded until Sunday, and been busy this week. Will probably get it done tonight. OK, I'll stay after school and write a C program to generate "I will not be late with my homework again" 1000 times to a disk file 8^) John
#29927From: John PendergrassJul 24, 1991 7:49 PM
I've a couple CD-ROM set of images from the Einstein Observatory X-Ray observations of the sky, as well as a 'sampler' astronomy images disk from a variety of sources. Have seen the images on the Mac (8 bit board) and they looked real nice. Am waiting till I get my CD-ROM drive for my ami to try and use here. Sure hope I can get them going. Most astronomical-based data is now being released on CD-ROM (rather than distributed databases), in a FITS data format. And the best part is, it is real cheap for tens of thousands of good images/data, cause the various observation centers want everyone who asks to have their data. Science is wonderful…. data sharing. –jp–seattle–
#30059From: Donald GrossJul 25, 1991 10:54 PM
John, How are these viewed on the Amiga? ———————————————-Don- via Whap!
#30112From: John PendergrassJul 26, 1991 11:04 AM
Heck, I don't know 🙂 I've only seen them on the Mac, at an Astronomy conference. I do have the FITS format specs, however (what there are of them — the 'white paper' of 89 or so), and plan on giving it a college try when I get my CD-ROM drive (dreammmmmmm) My understanding is that most all observatories and research centers are releasing their data on CD-ROM as time goes by (joining the wave) and that it is in the FITS format. FITS as a format allows for strait text data, tabular data, image data in various resolutions, etc…. therefore a good format for the astronomy circles…. I'd certainly post here when/if I ever 1) get a CD-ROM drive, 2) am successful at getting a reader/viewer going…. don't hold your breath 🙂 –jp–seattle–
#30166From: Donald GrossJul 26, 1991 8:36 PM
I think I'll wait until either a.) Commodore releases a CD-ROM drive that is CDTV compatible, or b.) a reputable (such as GVP) manufacturer releases one that is guarenteed 100% CDTV compatible. I saw some neat CDTV titles in the store but heck if I'm going to buy that $800 keyboardless TV video contraption that you have to buy to play them on. ———————————————-Don- via Whap!
#30381From: John PendergrassJul 28, 1991 10:19 PM
I hope you are right about someone (ANYONE) releasing a 100% compatible CDTV/CD-ROM drive for the Amigas…. but from what I've heard and read…. Commodore has built a screwy way to allowing a disc to check if its running on a CDTV device, so that mfgs can lock out other users. (ie. CD-ROMs)…. Fortunately it doesn't look like many developers are using the check, but it might forestall 100% compatibility? Since this would seem to be a hot question for potential CD-ROM purchasers, I would hope that some mag would run an article REAL SOON about CDTV/CD-ROM compatibility…. 'all you ever wanted to know ….'
#30189From: Mike HobartJul 26, 1991 11:12 PM
I'll have to check if it's in the Amiga version, but a FITS conversion utility is part of the Unix PBMPlus package (Portable BitMap). Also the FITS package source code is available over the Internet, so people can write direct FITS-IFF viewers if they like. <<< caveat – I haven't done this – I just know that the code is available 🙂 >> Mike
#30382From: John PendergrassJul 28, 1991 10:19 PM
Thanks, I'll check that out. My understanding is that the FITS 'standard' is still very loose, and developing (ie. no one document or standard to guranantee the correct way to write/read)…. still, from what I have seen, it doesn't look that tough a format.
#29938From: SyndesisJul 24, 1991 9:27 PM
The Univ. of Colorado's space science department sells a 10 disk set of Voyager for just ninety dollars. I called to get info on this, and I'll post it when it arrives. Incredible price. On the other hand, they said the info might take a few weeks, because the department is moving from one place to another. There's the difference between a *business* and a *university*.
#29937From: SyndesisJul 24, 1991 9:17 PM
Coasters is right. 🙂 Anyone know what "UniFile" is/was? Maybe I should ask in the VAX forum… I'll give them back to my friend, unless someone comes out with a sector editor for CD ROMs, on any of these three machines I have on hand.
#29630From: John GagerJul 22, 1991 1:27 AM
[ continuation ] out a free copy of the newsletter as well as talk your ear off. He does love to chat 8^) For those of you who may read this thread, I posted a note to John in the CDROM forum, and he is replying to it here. So for others, contact Fred Bellomy of the CD Rom users group at (805)-965-0265 or FAX (805)-965-5415. John (in beautiful downtown Walla Walla) – via Whap!
#29631From: John GagerJul 22, 1991 1:28 AM
Forgot to mention what CD's I have now. Not many really. The Fish & More volumes I & II, the BuckMaster Ham Radio CD, World Vista CDTV, American Heritage dictionary CDTV, and the CD Sampler that came with the Chinon controller. I went ahead and ordered Fred's bundle deal and the Gigabyte Shareware disc, so should have those next week.
#29603From: Eric RobbinsJul 21, 1991 9:41 PM
Yes, great, but… Since the ATonce can access ALL Amiga drives as though they were IBM devices, can it access the CD-ROM? Can anyone beta test this theory out? Anyone proximal to central NJ with a 2000 and a Xetec? I'll travel to try it out. Leave msg to me here or mail to 76324,3374 ERIC
#29724From: Ben A LottJul 22, 1991 11:06 PM
You'll probably need Microsoft's CD-Rom extensions installed at boot up at least. BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#29732From: John GagerJul 23, 1991 12:28 AM
Eric, I would say that since you can access all Amiga drives as IBM devices, then there may be a possibility that you can access a CD Rom drive with ATonce. The ONLY way you are going to find out is to find somebody with a Xetec drive and try it out. You might also try calling Xetec and see if they have done any work with the ATonce. John (in beautiful downtown Walla Walla) – via Whap!
#29654From: Russ WittJul 22, 1991 8:10 AM
Very Very Interesting John! I am planning on setting up a mini Novell Network and one of the configs I will experiment with will be to have the Amiga BB as the server. In a 2000 with an AT BB and a PC side HD controller and a VGA card would there still be room for the chinon controller ? Russ – via Whap!
#29842From: John GagerJul 23, 1991 10:13 PM
Yep, I think you would have 1 slot left for the Chinon controller Russ. It's a pretty small 1/2 card also, so it should go in without too much trouble. John (in beautiful downtown Walla Walla) – via Whap!