CompuServe Thread

new amigas

23 messages in this thread
#26061From: Jerry StalnakerJul 22, 1992 4:34 PM
Has anyone heard anything concrete about the NEW AMIGA computers with the AA chip set ?????? I wish that someone could give me the REAL story about these machines. I have a 500, 1 meg Agnus, and a Supra 52 meg 500 XP.. I feel its time to move up, YEA I EVEN HAVE THE CASH ON HAND !!!! Well all I hear is that the new computers, with the new AA graphics chips, are going to make the 500 and 2000 obsolete !!!!!!!! ======== ======== I was going to go with the NEW GVP A530 68030/40 for the 500, or get a 2000 with the G-FORCE 68030/25. WELL NOW I'M WORRIED ABOUT BUYING A MACHINE THAT MAY BE OUTDATED 2 OR 3 MONTHS AFTER OPENING THE BOX. I guess my question is this-is this going to make all our computers old pot planters ?? Will they be upgradable to the new formats ?? should I wait and see ?? DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE "2000 ACTION REPLAY" WILL WORK WITH AN ACCELERATOR CARD ? The Action replay now uses the processor slot, but I can't find out if the company will try and use a different slot on the new cards… WOW WHAT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, WELL ITS A LOT OF MONEY TOO…… YES THE AMIGA IS OVERPRICED BUT AS LONG AS ITS SUPPORTED BUY GOOD COMPANIES AND GREAT USERS I'LL KEEP BUYING !! thanks for any advice or comments jerry
#26073From: SyndesisJul 22, 1992 10:23 PM
If they're not announced, then anyone is simply guessing at what Commodore will actually do. Developers have signed non-disclosure agreements that prevent them from talking about what they've seen. So, I'd suggest patience…
#26079From: Christopher LapriseJul 23, 1992 3:04 AM
Jerry, From what I have heard, the A500/2000 may be somewhat obsolete, in terms of hardware capability. I would still assume that future OS revisions would still run fine in older models. I doubt that even an A3000 would be able to accept the new chipset. However, with Zorro III graphics boards starting to emerge, I'm confident that the A3000 will aquire equal or better graphics capability than the new AA machines. I think this will be due mainly to the fact that DIG (device independent graphics) is an inevitability for the Amiga, and that Commodore themselves must deal with implementing DIG if they want to integrate new graphics modes into the OS – Amiga users will accept nothing less from Commodore, I'm sure.
#26147From: Jonathan BlackwellJul 25, 1992 3:31 AM
I read some interesting stuff from over the net.. Interesting. Supposedly, there is going to be an A4000 and an A1000 Plus/A800 evidently, commodore has not made up there mind. I will post the message when I get a chance. Apparently, the A4000 is an '040 machine based on the AA chip set and is a far cry in graphics from the current generation. Lots'a new features and preliminary tests show that the software is pretty compatible with it. The other machine the A800 or A1000 Plus is a pizza style box. That's all I can remember. Like I said, I will post the message I saw over the net. -Jonathan PS: Of course this is all speculatory and so until there is something official, it doesn't exist. The person who posted the message said he signed a non-disclosure but was fed up with the wait commodore has on these machines just because they want to get rid of existing inventory. We'll see..
#26155From: Michael GerardJul 25, 1992 10:37 AM
Jonathan: I wouldn't bother posting that UseNet msg… several of the SysOps here are also under NDA's with CBM and I doubt very much that they would allow the message to be posted in public view. I don't know… maybe now that it has been picked up by AMReports and Amiga News they might let it slide… but you should probably ask Don or Steve before you upload it. Michael …..on AutoPilot
#26177From: SyndesisJul 25, 1992 7:21 PM
If it's just a matter of truth versus rumors, I don't think anyone would say that something couldn't be posted… you're free to lie or otherwise shoot your mouth off, I'd say. 🙂
#26188From: Michael GerardJul 26, 1992 12:41 AM
when the bearer of truth can't speak, and false truths abound, how can truth prevail? I've no problem with the rumor mill; Only with rumors that are reported as fact instead of fantasy. Michael …..on AutoPilot
#26222From: SyndesisJul 27, 1992 1:34 AM
If it ain't shipping, it ain't real. (The First Book of St. Silicon.) If you want to deal in rumors, why are you worried about "truth"?
#26224From: Michael GerardJul 27, 1992 3:09 AM
Since when does one negate the other, if you can separate fact from fiction? Michael …..on AutoPilot
#26228From: Black Belt SystemsJul 27, 1992 1:04 PM
Oh… you mean like ASDG's NJPL loader? <innocent grin> –Ben …via AutoPilot
#26266From: SyndesisJul 28, 1992 9:30 AM
Yes, exactly. Are you avoiding the question, like ASDG?
#26284From: Black Belt SystemsJul 28, 1992 7:57 PM
What question was that? <grin> I think you asked the question elsewhere, and I already answered it. Unless I missed something (both likely and nothing new). –Ben …via AutoPilot
#26291From: SyndesisJul 29, 1992 12:46 AM
The question was, in total, what was the time lag between your announcement of a Toaster framestore loader for ImageMaster and the shipment of same?
#26312From: Black Belt SystemsJul 29, 1992 6:16 PM
Infinite – at least unless NewTek gets their head out of the toilet. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#26289From: John GagerJul 29, 1992 12:04 AM
>> Oh…you mean like ASDG's NJPL loader? <innocent grin> Ooooh, that was cold Ben. But then Perry could come back with: "Oh…you mean like Black Belts TIFF loader?" <Evil grin> John – K7KB (via Whap!)
#26313From: Black Belt SystemsJul 29, 1992 6:16 PM
Yeah, he could, if he was online supporting his users. But he rarely is, so there you go. You can go over to the ASDG forum and watch the group of ASDG customers talk to each other instead of ASDG for entertainment. :^) He's been on usenet a little bit lately, but not here. Besides, we'll *still* may have our TIFF stuff out before their NASA stuff is ready, we're certainly trying hard. And ours won't cost $100, either. :^)) –Ben …via AutoPilot
#26184From: Steve AhlstromJul 26, 1992 12:33 AM
Michael, Well, the majority (if not all) the sysops here are registered developers. Because we are, and under NDA, we can't comment one way or another on the usenet message. As I believe Denny said in another message, there is both truth and fiction in that usenet posting. We all know that, despite the darkest of Amiga pundits, CBM hasn't been sitting on their thumbs. They know the need for advancements in graphics technology, the need for speed, the need to remain price and function competitive with the rest of the market. Those advancements are coming, some to be announced in September. After checking with CATS, I can say that the author of that message is NOT a registered Amiga developer. Take his posting with a large grain of salt. Wait for what CBM announces in September; you will be pleased. As for reposting the usenet message, why bother? AmiReport published it, Amiga News published it. It makes for good rumor material, but that's about it. If anyone has a "need to know" what's coming, they already know. Spreading someone's speculation or wish list only hurts the Amiga and it's users when pie in the sky prophesy is taken as fact and does not materialize. -sja
#26194From: Jonathan BlackwellJul 26, 1992 2:41 AM
I will not post that message now that every one has seen it's content. I too know that it is only speculatory, but sometimes that is part of the fun. Right now, it's a guessing game and every Amiga addict is acting on there fantasies. I will be at the show in S. CA in Sept. I hope I see something then….. -Jonathan
#26234From: Sam ReynoldsJul 27, 1992 8:28 PM
Just to go off on a tangent here… How does one go about becoming a registered developer for CBM? Thanks Sam Reynolds (inGrand Rapids, MI) – via Whap!
#26235From: Ben A LottJul 27, 1992 9:06 PM
Act of God ;-} Just kidding, BEN:Leigh's Computer's
#26249From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIJul 28, 1992 1:32 AM
Sam: Contact CATS, Sherrie Rubincan at (215) 431-9180. I don't remember exactly what the Certified program costs, on the order of $75/year, and the Commercial is around $450/year. These figures are not exact. Clint <VRLI>
#26282From: Jerry StalnakerJul 28, 1992 5:42 PM
The big question and the one that everyone keeps shying away from is not if they come out with a new machine but when.. I know that Black belt is doing something with Commodore ???? Wheres HAM E anyway MY QUESTION IS will the new machines do away with the old???????????? BUY now pay later…..later……later ~Kk~R{i_P) the new machines will be backward compatable but the old will NOT BE UPGRADABLE well maybe so knowones talking and that's why I for one am not upgrading to a 2000 when in 4 or 5 months it will be outdated !!!!!!!!! later jerry
#26327From: Nick MurrayJul 30, 1992 11:29 AM
Jerry, You really should work on your punctuation and spelling. 😎 Nick