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#GP Database Programs

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#38456From: John EakinJan 29, 1993 8:44 AM
Kathy, I have not forgotten you – just been covered up in all the literature that I have received from the CD software folks. I appreciate your help in pointing me toward them. My conclusion is that there are lots of good retrieval engines out there, especially for text and graphics. But there is nothing for fielded data which is _reasonably_ priced. I'm looking at maybe half a dozen copies, so ten grand for software seems a little high. Even the companies which will a put my data into one of these high dollar packages for a per copy royalty are not cheap. One-off CD-ROM's have so much potential – but catch 22 is that the software is not available. My conclusion is that the only way that I can afford my project is to use a general purpose DBMS package like xBase or Paradox. I had hoped to use Alpha Four (xBase). But found that it must write to the data directory, so it would not work on CD's. Paradox and Fox will work (so they tell me). But Paradox inflates the file size tremendously. So I thought that before I try to convert my data to another format, it might be wise to find someone who has already done this. (Yes, I don't like to ask for road directions either, so don't say it <g>). Do you know anyone who has successfully used a general purpose DBMS program on a CD-ROM? And if so, what was the performance like? Regards, John
#38568From: Katherine CochraneJan 30, 1993 11:37 AM
John, I have not personally made any discs using general DBMS. However, I'll pose the question to our group and see what kinds of answers I get. As soon as I hear something, I'll pass it along to you. Kathy <<– The One-Off CD Shop MidSouth, Inc.
#38573From: Katherine CochraneJan 30, 1993 11:38 AM
John, I've had a little time to think about your message and came up with some suggestions: Have you thought about using an authoring system with a reasonable runtime (like ToolBook, which has no royalty fee if you purchase the Developer's kit, I think). Many of these systems can use data in .DBF or LOTUS123 formats for flat file data use, and have limited database functions. One of these might be adequate for your needs. You might want to include just runtime or file display versions of a "traditional" (HD based) DBMS, and have your customers copy the engine to their hard disk, where it would run faster, anyway. You'd need to find a DBMS with a free or low cost runtime, but that shouldn't be too difficult. You could include a self-installing file on the CD-ROM to put the engine on the hard disk easily. The PKZIP suite has a program that would work, I think. Please let me know what you come up with. We're working on this question, too. Kathy <<– The One-Off CD Shop MidSouth, Inc.
#38644From: Daniel G MintzJan 31, 1993 7:38 AM
I have run into the same problem you did. A Federal customer approached us to produce a fairly large number of CD's to distribute information internally and to commercial users. I spent a lot of time attempting to find out about companies that work with putting textual and graphic materials onto CD — it turns out IMHO that for this kinds of applications the field is still pretty young, and while there are a growing number of options, less than you might think that have any strong track record. Regardless, the issue of retrieval engines also was a problem. The really good ones, especially those that manipulated images cost a fortune. We ended up using Folio which is good at text — I think — though not real strong with images AND most important is fairly inexpensive when used for non-profit distribution. I believe there would be a market out there for a low cost retrieval engine that was sold at a reasonable price, I expect that over the next year or two some enterprising software developers will come out with them — in particular a Windows based utility could be pretty popular. Good luck. – Dan