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#Let's use more JPEG

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#48453From: David RhotenJul 2, 1993 10:10 AM
Martin: This is something I've been meaning to leave a message about for a while. I applaud your use of JPEG for uploaded images. Why are we all still fighting with hugh file sizes to download anything with any sort of decent resolution/color depth with zipped TGAs or GIFs? I'll round up a couple JPEG utils that I've dl'd from elsewhere and put 'em up for those what ain't got 'em, and we'll start a revolution, eh? Dave
#48470From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 2, 1993 11:13 AM
David, Well said! My file is a lot smaller and looks a lot better as a JPEG then as a .gif – the best of both worlds <g>.
#48870From: Todd RichardsJul 7, 1993 7:54 AM
David, Sure would like an education on using JPEG, especially as a DLL in a Windows app I'm trying to develope. –TR
#48889From: David RhotenJul 7, 1993 10:24 AM
Todd: You'd probably be better off asking/looking in the GRAPHDEV and GRAPHSUP forums, but a company called OPTIBASE offers the Optibase OptiTools SDK developers tool kit for JPEG and image processing. They also have something called the JPEG Workshop which allows you to use JPEG images with any app supporting DDE. You can contact them at OPTIBASE, Inc. 7800 Deering Ave. Canoga Park, CA 91304 1-818-719-6566 1-800-451-5101 1-818-719-9028 BBS They also have coprocessor boards to enhance speed and to do a lossless version of JPEG. Hope this helps. Dave
#49114From: Todd RichardsJul 9, 1993 7:22 AM
David, Thanks for the info, I'll give 'em a call. –TR
#48982From: Gus GrubbaJul 8, 1993 12:44 AM
Try calling LEAD Technologies (704 549-5532). They have a pretty good library for imaging compression (JPEG and all). I have the library for DOS, Windows and for PharLap (32 bit dos extender). It works great.
#49008From: SyndesisJul 8, 1993 9:53 AM
Gus, I just read your overview of the IPAS toolkit in the latest issue of 3D Artist. I want to know more! Pyros gave me your home phone number, can I call you? (Just kidding.) Last night I installed the Metaware compiler and the Pharlap kit. And the IPAS kit. I think there's a lot of forum members who'd love to have a thread where IPAS-creating topics were discussed. Would you care to expand upon your article? What comes next?
#49062From: Gus GrubbaJul 8, 1993 4:58 PM
Next? I don't know. I'm still trying to fight through my daytime "formal" job! (at least I get paid for that one)… This has been a lot of fun (in a warped sense of fun, that is) but I still have to "deliver" a product by October. 'till then, I'm in worse shape than Gary's R3 shipping (and mind you, my PM ain't nothing like Bob Bennett, shame, shame, shame…) Call me? Sure, just make sure you do it between 9pm and 6am. Then I sleep from 6 to 9, go to work, back at home around 6, take a look at my family and around it goes… I'm not much of a thread starter (yeah, right…). I suggest you just pose some questions and we start from there. If you just installed everything, it should take you a couple of hours to get accquainted (sp) with the environment anyway.
#49117From: SyndesisJul 9, 1993 7:53 AM
I don't really want to call you… I was just kidding. If we start an auction, I'm sure we could raise the price for your home number. 🙂 I'm still in that getting-to-know-you stage. I've been programming PCs since before IBM decided to make one, mostly in C with a little assembler. And although I've debugged Windows "thunks" and DLLs, all the implications of 32-bit DOS and extenders is making my head spin. I've never had to deal with this area of PC-dom before. Actually, I bet the Yost Group programmers could jump in here, too. They've had exposure to Motorola processors and flat address space before. (What's that, a troll in the corner? No, it's just a Tramiel. 🙂
#49163From: Gus GrubbaJul 9, 1993 12:40 PM
I am primarily an assembler programmer. I use C for stuff too painfull in assembly but I always find myself back to good old asm. It just hurts me to see the junk code C generates when you demand speed. For user interface stuff C is just fine. In my FILM.IXP routine, where over 4 billion calculatios are performed, it was taking over 5 minutes per frame. It's now down to 35 seconds. I did a lot of Windows device drivers and VxD's. That started before Windows 3 was released and now is NT (although I'm still not impressed by this behemoth). This 32 bit DOS extender is actually a breeze to program due to the freedom you have to do whatever you want. But because of that same freedom, you have to take care of everything the OS would normaly do. I prefer that way because I know what to expect. The only problem is that, because so few people use this thing, not much of a "after market" exists in terms of tools. You've got to write everything yourself. Motorola processors are all right. What sucks are the OS' around them (yeah, I know DOS ain't no spark of brightness, who said I care about DOS <g>. It's, in fact, just a file system which you can do whatever you want on top of it or disregard it altogheter). The biggest (and probably only) advantage I see in programing PC's (and subsequently, DOS) is that there are 1 quazzilion PC's for every McNerd or whatever out there. Which market would I prefer? Oh, well, back to work…
#49203From: SyndesisJul 9, 1993 5:53 PM
Hey, I started my business in the Amiga market, you don't need to tell me about market size. 🙂 When you say 32-bit DOS extender stuff is a "breeze", what do you mean? And what sorts of tasks do you need to handle that the OS might normally do?
#49222From: Gus GrubbaJul 9, 1993 9:30 PM
All sorts of things. Handling exceptions, hardware contention, CPU state, memory contention, memory translation (protected x real), etc. PharLap provides a good deal of memory support (preallocated selectors pointing all over the place) but is pretty basic when it comes to hardware exceptions and no support whatsoever to multitasking.
#49311From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Jul 11, 1993 9:19 AM
Todd, A recent PC Mag (either this issue or last) had a whole section regarding compression types including JPEG. Does a pretty good job of explaining. Ang
#49406From: Ken EdwardsJul 12, 1993 1:33 PM
The Issue is Vol12 no 13 of Pc Mag, Page 371. ken
#49320From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Jul 11, 1993 11:37 AM
Todd, A recent PC Mag (either this issue or last) had a whole section regarding compression types including JPEG. Does a pretty good job of explaining. Ang