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#thanx 4 the manuals

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#48856From: Tim c BrananJul 7, 1993 3:46 AM
I know this is probably going to sound strange and out of the blue, but I must praise you again for the fine set of manuals you wrote for 3dsr2. I have been learning an image processing program at work and the manual, what there is of it, is real big on theory, short on how to do things, and a real mess all around. Mucking through that thing, then coming home and using 3ds and finding exactly what I need in the manuals is a very plesant change and I just wanted to show my appreciation once again for them. I wish everybody had your standards. And on a matter completely different, do you guys have a prepared bio or something? I am curious about the Genesis of the Yost Group and 3ds. If you have anything you can just upload to satisfy my curiosity, please do, but I know your all busy, so no need to go out of your way or anything. I had planned on wandering through Siggraph for a day, so if you have a booth I could ask you there.
#48902From: Yost GroupJul 7, 1993 10:48 AM
Thanks for the praise on the manuals, Tim. After that, I wish I had some real bio info to send you, but we've never been much interested in that kind of thing. "We began in a small buggy whip factory in Istanbul, of poor but humble parents…" <g> I can, however, tell you that the true origin of 3D Studio was at a Comdex, where Tom Hudson approached Gary and me with a program he'd written that rotated a 3D wireframe cube. He said he wanted to write a 3D animation program. I think Gary's still got that program somewhere. Anyway, we will definitely be at Siggraph at the Autodesk booth, so stop by and say hi when you're in town. – Jack
#49017From: Yost GroupJul 8, 1993 10:48 AM
Jack, that was fall Comdex, 1984! – G PS: Tom's got that code in a vault somewhere.
#49041From: David RhotenJul 8, 1993 2:04 PM
Gary: I _dare_ you to put the cube program up on a machine at siggraph and either label it 3DS r3.0beta -or- 3DS r0.1! ~~~~ Dave
#49172From: Yost GroupJul 9, 1993 12:55 PM
hehe… I don't even have a computer that'll RUN it anymore. It was written in 1984 for the Atari ST. – G
#49493From: Dan O'LearyJul 13, 1993 9:58 AM
So Tom Hudson is the same guy who used to write the columns in the Atari magazines…. he was like a god to me then – 10 years old, Atari 800, learning assembly language on 6502. Those were the days. dan
#49520From: Yost GroupJul 13, 1993 1:12 PM
10 years old and learning 6502 assembler, eh? THAT'S a hoot. I'll have to tell Tom. – G
#49719From: Dan O'LearyJul 15, 1993 9:28 AM
Well, more like 10 years old and STRUGGLING to TRY to learn assembler. Never really got it down, but I did write a few cool display list interrupts. Color cycling was all the rage then. Dan ps – ask him if he remembers the 'Boot Camp' series of articles on learning assembly.
#49863From: Yost GroupJul 16, 1993 10:59 AM
I'm sure he remembers the Boot Camp stuff… That was an incredibly useful set of tutorials that he wrote. – G
#49919From: Dan O'LearyJul 16, 1993 9:04 PM
> I'm sure he remembers the Boot Camp stuff… That was an incredibly > useful set of tutorials that he wrote. HE DID WRITE THOSE!!?? GAWD. He really _IS_ my hero. <SIGH> I need to get him to sign my 3ds manual! Dan
#49585From: Tim c BrananJul 14, 1993 12:48 AM
that beats me, I was piddling around with basic on an apple IIe at twelve. Took a course on it in junior high and failed it. I realized real quick that programming wasn't the thing for me so I had to pass the time annoying the teacher as much as possible. He didn't appreciate that too much. What year were you ten?
#49720From: Dan O'LearyJul 15, 1993 9:30 AM
I was 10 in … (hear the calculator working?) … 1979. That is an approximate guess of when I had my Atari… 10-12 anyway. Don't worry, I never program. DannO
#49813From: Tim c BrananJul 16, 1993 12:14 AM
Sounds like we are almost exactly the same age. I was ten in '78. I find myself having to pick up books on beginners c these days to keep up with my job, not something I am real keen on. then of course I also told my math teacher in high school I would never need to know algebra or anything beyond it in my life. Little did I know… Now I find myself wading through a book on image processing filled with calculus problems I have no hope of understanding. Guess I'll have to look at the pictures.
#50046From: Jul 18, 1993 9:49 PM
Tim: >> Sounds like we are almost exactly the same age. I was ten in '78. What are you guys trying to do, make Doug Wolfgram and I feel old? <bg> Greg Pyros
#50075From: Tim c BrananJul 19, 1993 1:53 AM
You Betcha! (g) Then, we wait, and when you least expect it, we take your job. (bg) Actually, I generally sort of subconciously assume that most of the people on this forum are older than my measly 24 years of age, so it kind of suprises me when I find someone my age who isn't obviously a student. Don't worry, though, we hold you in awe, and take what ever scraps of wisdom you care to rain down on us 🙂
#50111From: David TaffetJul 19, 1993 10:47 AM
YOU feel old!?! Sh*t, I was 18 in '78… DT
#50178From: Evan Yares [WeirdTM]Jul 19, 1993 6:37 PM
Greg: You *are* old. Evan
#49067From: Yost GroupJul 8, 1993 6:42 PM
I thought it was pretty surprising that I remembered the show, much less the year! – J
#48907From: Yost GroupJul 7, 1993 11:07 AM
Jack wrote the 3DS manuals (with my kibbitzing, of course). Re the genesis of YG and 3DS… we're just a small group of mutant nerds who have nothing better to do, basically. But sometimes I think that if I _had_ taken that job with the Post Office, I'd be a little more relaxed and my hair wouldn't be so grey. (nawwww….) – G
#48978From: Gus GrubbaJul 8, 1993 12:44 AM
>> But sometimes I think that if I _had_ taken that job with the Post Office, >> I'd be a little more relaxed and my hair wouldn't be so grey. (nawwww….) Yeah, right… How about those weird post office workers who like going into a shooting spree for relaxation? Or maybe, you would have invented a Virtual Postal Delivery System that would actualy work! VPDS, hmmmm, sounds like a product to me, or at least to some acronym lover up in DC… Sorry but couldn't let that go alone…
#49018From: Yost GroupJul 8, 1993 10:49 AM
OK OK… the 7-11, then. – G VJDS (Virtual Junkfood Delivery System?)
#48985From: Tim c BrananJul 8, 1993 1:01 AM
Nah, not the post office! Then you have to worry about homocidal mail carriers.
#49019From: Yost GroupJul 8, 1993 10:49 AM
Homicidal mail carriers are nothing compared to rabid product managers. <g> – G
#49021From: yann bertaudJul 8, 1993 11:05 AM
And people like Cliff Claven, Mr Know it all. <g> Yann
#48953From: John TaggertJul 7, 1993 7:56 PM
Haha. It seems the less support there is for a product, namely 3DS, there must be a super intellect technical writer. I must agree that the tutorial is one of the most well thoughtout, concise, and definitive manuals I had ever used. But, of course without it, most beginners would be dead in the water!!!