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XPR Bi Modem

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#106593From: Vernon GranerJul 8, 1993 10:23 PM
Does anyone know of or tell me where I can find an XPR version of BI-Modem for the Amiga? I have a BBS locally that has this as an option and I'd like to use it for simultaenous up/down loading of files. Anyone know if there is such a beast? Vern via -whap!
#106657From: Sean LallyJul 9, 1993 12:53 PM
Vern, It's in the libs here as XPRBIM.LHA. -Sean
#106807From: jack radiganJul 10, 1993 4:01 PM
Ahem, someone needs to do some checking if that XPR bimodem is posted here. It is an altered version of XPR ZMODEM, it is not a bidirectional protocol in the least and is not the same as the PC protocol of the same name. -jack-
#106845From: Sean LallyJul 11, 1993 5:35 AM
Hello Jack, Maybe the uploader should change the description. I was just passing it on as described. BTW, when's the latest and greatest JRComm going to be released? Looking forward to it. -Sean
#106903From: jack radiganJul 11, 1993 9:31 PM
Sean, JR-Comm has been replaced by Terminus which was posted earlier this week. -jack-
#106997From: Sean LallyJul 12, 1993 3:50 PM
Jack, I was starting to put two and two together. <g> Thanks for the confirmation. -Sean
#107146From: Vernon GranerJul 13, 1993 11:44 PM
Jack, Do you know where I might be able to find a Bi Directional protocol for use with the Amiga? I have "TWC" which does a 2 way chat & send/rec files, but it requires that it be run on *Amigas only* at both ends. I am looking for a way that I could use my 14.4k Supra to xfer & rec at the same time from a local BBS in my area, as I transfer quite a few large Pic files in both directions (the guy running it is a GFX artist I work with). I would love to be able to set up all the files I need to send and receive and then just leave the system to do the dirty work (it seems such a shame to waste the perfectly good 14.4k backchannel by leaving it idle!) The BBS is running on a 386/16 and it is called MAXIMUS. He has HS/Link and a few other protocols available such as MobyTyrbo-Zmodem and some other obscure ones I don't have. Is there a comprehensive listing of all the available XPR protocols? Thanx for your time in advance! 🙂 Vern via -whap!
#107190From: jack radiganJul 14, 1993 1:08 PM
Venon, I don't know of any XPR that's capable of bi-directional transfer. The XPR standard wasn't really written to handle two-way transfers without an awful lot of hacking. There is a person working towards a 3.0 version of XPR that should make bi-directional transfer a possibility, but then you're going to be up against the fact that HS/Link and BIMODEM are proprietary protocols whose authors have shown no inclination to publicize the mechanics of their protocol. I have a document on the Hydra protocol which is a publically documented bi-directional protocol, but I'm not sure how popular it's gotten over on the PC were it was developed. I've not seen any recent activity on it either, but I still plan to go ahead and add it to Terminus eventually. As for MobyTurbo, all that does is give ZMODEM slightly better throughput, about 2% on average, by eliminating most of the escapes that are performed on certain characters and character sequences in the data stream. I contacted Chuck to get the ZMODEM-90 extensions, but he got weird and went proprietary too. -jack-
#107541From: Vernon GranerJul 18, 1993 3:33 PM
Thanx for the quick reply Jack! I'm glad to hear that you will be attempting to include a 2 way protocol in Terminus. I have to admit that I am tempted to move to Terminus, but I have been held back from doing so because of some featrues I have come to enjoy in the current shareware terminal I am using from Australia called X-COMM. I recently downloaded the demo version of Terminus and haven't had a chance to really check it out yet, but so far it looks like the 2 of the X-COMM options I use consistently are not available in Terminus. #1 is call rate settings to allow me to keep a monetary counter in a corner to help me stay within my long distance budget, and #2 is the lack of a 'macro panel' that allows you to click on a displayed button to execute a macro. I use that all the time to change settings on my Supra 14.4k modem. Also, I couldn't find an option for External Emulations and I do like to make use of the XEM VT340 protocol. I have to admit that I haven't explored the docs nor have I extensivly tested the program yet, but I do intend to. So far I am *tempted* to give up X-COMM, but I haven't made that leap yet. 🙂 Vern via -whap!
#107613From: jack radiganJul 19, 1993 8:07 AM
Vern, Call rate management is lacking, but it's something I plan to add in the future once some of the higher priority features have been done. As for macros; I went the route of using the function keys to assign macros to so that the display isn't cluttered with something that might obscure remote data or limit the number of lines in the display for people that are unable to use overscan. Also, regarding changing the settings on the Supra, Terminus supports 4 dialing prefixes that allows you to do that automatically, no need to bother with macros to accomplish that. -jack-
#106772From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJul 10, 1993 7:49 AM
Vernon, I am almost certain that xprbimodem is available in Library 5 of AmigaUser. —Betty
#107147From: Vernon GranerJul 13, 1993 11:44 PM
Betty, Jack Radigan seems to think that it is not truely a bi modem (it is a modified Z modem) and therefore not able to do bi drectional transfers which is what I am trying to find a way to do. Any other ideas? Thanx! 🙂 Vern via -whap!
#107237From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJul 15, 1993 12:38 AM
Vernon, I really don't know. I just found the program on a local BBS, noticed that it was not in our libraries, so I uploaded it. I had no way to try it out. —Betty
#107254From: jack radiganJul 15, 1993 7:17 AM
Betty, Just try loading it in your comm program and looking at it's configuration requester, it's the same as XPRZmodem. All they did was go in and edit ZMODEM to say BIMODEM. -jack-