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D 24-BIT ANIMATION

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#50566From: PHIL RADELATJul 22, 1993 3:47 AM
Well, I'm not sure, but, Truevision themselves may have some modern-day alternatives. Whether or not they're 24 bit is another question. I've seen a lot of lower-end stuff from them since they were sold to, I believe it was SuperMac. If the Targa and AT Vista cards were brought into the VGA age, they wouldn't be so bad. As for 24-bit video interface, well, theres a lot out there, I'm not sure what's better or worse, or more or less, than using an AT Vista setup. I see a lot of stuff advertised in Computer Graphics World, High Color, and Computer Pictures (although Computer Pictures leans more to the Mac side of things). Some of the stuff are boards, others external packages. I'm doing a lot of research right now on all this stuff. I'd like to have a 2-D, and 3-D set-up with 24-bit transfer capability to both video and higher-res film. The video stuff is relatively cheap nowadays, the film transfer is another story. Well, I'll catch you around!
#50575From: Ted BoardmanJul 22, 1993 5:31 AM
Phil Have you looked into PixoFoto. It's a powerful DOS paint package. Call Clive Liu at 415.323.6592. TedB
#50758From: PHIL RADELATJul 23, 1993 5:44 AM
Last time I looked into that, it was bugged-out, and kept crashing. Otherwise, it seemed like an interesting alternative.
#50606From: Jul 22, 1993 10:41 AM
Phil: >> since they were sold to, I believe it was SuperMac. Wrong! BUZZ! Next player! You, sir, over there! "RasterOps." Bingo! <g> Greg (but thank you for playing) Pyros PS – the above quote from Robin Williams in "Dead Poet's Society"!
#50826From: Ana Francisca GervasJul 23, 1993 12:01 PM
>>the above quote from Robin Williams in "Dead Poet's Society"! Great movie! I'm writing this sitting in a chair on the top of the table <g> Seriously, some of the Great Thoughts Are there. Ana
#50679From: Ana Francisca GervasJul 22, 1993 5:04 PM
>>Well, I'm not sure, but, Truevision themselves may have some modern-day alternatives. Whether or not they're 24 bit is another question. Certainly, the Truevision 1024-32 is not a cheap board, but if you want a Texas Instruments 34020 based board with 4MB vram (and a 16MB xtra module) of RAM and 1024x768x32 bit not interlaced high frequency, that it's your board. i use it for Windows, with Painter, PhotoStyler and PhotoShop. The drivers are really good. It also carry an on-board ET4000 VGA chipset, so you will get stellar TI and DOS perfomance. For print work, it's a great board (specially plenty of memory). >I've seen a lot of lower-end stuff from them since they were sold to, I >believe it was SuperMac. I'm not sure if you have been in a cave this last year <g> but (if I understand you well) Truevision has not been adquired by SuperMac. They are with RasterOps now, and form one of the biggest graphics company in both Mac and PC platforms. The lower end stuff you are talking about are probably the Bravados and VideoVGAs, the "lastest" Truevision boards. Well, the Bravado is only 16 bit VGA video, and true video in a window, and probably is the best card in its class. A decoder will appear soon. I had one 16bit (8bit available too) for a couple of months. it's an awesome board. The VideoVGA is aimed to the nonbroadcast video market. >If the Targa and AT Vista cards were brought into the VGA age, they >wouldn't be so bad. I don't know what are you trying to say with this, but I think that the targas and Vistas are good as they are now. For video work, VGA simply don't fit. the targas and the Vista are just that: Targa and Vista compatible <g> As for the video/print setup, I work in both fields. I'm currently using a Targa+ and a 1024-32 in the same system, in order to have both worlds. Kevin Krell also use this setup (correct me if not, Kevin) Ana
#50759From: PHIL RADELATJul 23, 1993 5:53 AM
Yeah well, Rasterops, Supermac, what the hell. 🙂 As for the Targa/AT Vista, I don't like interlaced output, which is what I really meant by "bringing them into the modern age". I know that they're not interlaced for the video work, but, video work is not everything! Neither is 1024×768 resolution. I've taken keen interest in the 24-bit 1600×1200 Matrox card, and it would be nice to have an AT Vista-type card with that kind of res. I should add here that this Matrox card may be interlaced at that res, but I highly doubt it. I think you get the idea. The modern age. 🙂
#50771From: Jul 23, 1993 9:33 AM
Phil: >> As for the Targa/AT Vista, I don't like interlaced output PMJI, the interlaced output is only when going out to video, the board will also output non-interlaced if you want it to! No extra charge! <g> The Vista has somewhere around 20 different output modes, all software selectable. Greg Pyros
#50875From: CSA/CAJul 23, 1993 4:38 PM
Greg, Phil may mean that he would like the higher resolution (1024×768) to be non-interlaced, and the ATVista is only interlaced at that res. BTW, looks as if all his arguments about Hi-res QFX are being nullified (batch mode, full-screen, Windows, etc.). Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#50987From: PHIL RADELATJul 24, 1993 5:17 AM
Not really. We recently incresed the memory in the machine to 64 megs, loaded a small (30meg) file into QFX 3, and it was still a slug.
#51115From: Ana Francisca GervasJul 25, 1993 3:04 PM
Yes, Greg. But it seems that Phil wants superhires at high frequencies and non-interlaced (at 24 bits). However, there's a simply explanation to this interlaced vs. noninterlaced dilema: both modes have its application. Hey! I spend MANY dollars in both class of boards, if there's something that can do it all (and do it VERY GOOD) I will take it (if I can afford it) <G> Ana
#50843From: CSA/CAJul 23, 1993 2:12 PM
Ana, Well, I *USED* to have a 1024-32 & Targa+64 & ATVista 4M in the same system. Not no more… Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates