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#Atari strikes back

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#107578From: Leslie T. BartiromoJul 18, 1993 9:00 PM
-> When the Tramiel's bought Atari around 1984, they didn't buy the coin-op division, i.e., the ARCADE games division. What they did buy was doing game consoles (2600, 5200, 7800, etc.) and computers (400, 800, and later ST, etc). A very minor correction, if you don't mind. You imply that the "ST" line was part of the deal Tramiel made in buying Atari Corp. from Time-Warner but the ST/TT's were, supposedly, developed by Tramiel and his team for their new Atari (Atari Inc.) I had heard that the ST was a computer Commodore was developing and Jack wisked it and the engineers away from Commodore when he left but I don't know how true that is. BTW, do you know why Atari went from "Atari Corp" to "Atari Inc.?"
#107580From: Robby CookeJul 18, 1993 10:27 PM
(BTW,do you know why Atari went from "Atari Corp" to "Atari Inc.?") I think it is the other way around,Atari Inc. to Atari Corp. -Rob
#107694From: Leslie T. BartiromoJul 20, 1993 4:57 AM
I guess what I want to know is what the difference is between Atari being a Corp & Inc.
#107721From: Robby CookeJul 20, 1993 2:26 PM
(I guess what I want to know is what the difference is between Atari being a Corp & Inx.) I have no idea.I guess the same. -Rob
#107626From: Steve AhlstromJul 19, 1993 12:52 PM
Leslie, After Jack left CBM, he formed a company called TTL (Tramiel Technologies Limited). It was under that banner than the ST was developed by one of his people (I forget the gentleman's name right now — it is an Indian name). There was about a 1 year period from the time Tramiel left CBM to the time he purchased Atari (for $50M in IOUs). -sja
#107656From: Paul HigginbottomJul 19, 1993 8:44 PM
Re: " it is an Indian name" – Shiraz Shivji. Not sure if I have the spelling right. Very smart guy, as were the other engineers that went from C= to Atari around that time.
#107764From: Andy FinkelJul 20, 1993 10:21 PM
Shiraz later left, and went on to become one of the founders of Momenta (which used to be a company doing a pen-based computer) andy
#107653From: Paul HigginbottomJul 19, 1993 8:41 PM
Hi Leslie, you'll note that I said "(400, 800, and later ST, etc)." That is, I realized the ST came AFTER the acquisition. And no, Atari didn't steal the ST away from Commodore, trust me. Some good C= engineers did go there though, that is for sure. Paul.
#107779From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 21, 1993 1:24 AM
Paul, I'm doing this from memory…but I seem to recall that Commodore sued Tramiel for technology theft..and I *believe* they won. That way a long time ago…and I could easily be wrong. Don
#107825From: Christian BusseJul 21, 1993 3:58 PM
Paul, you're right, Atari didn't steal the ST from C=, the story was, the Amiga people were facing financial ruin, so they looked for new money. Atari (Tramiel) offered to buy the company (i.e. the Amiga) but then lowered their offer (they probably thought Amiga had to go along because of their financial situation) but then – enter Commodore who offered them (Amiga) a reasonable price and so got the deal and our beloved machine which – shiver me timbers! – would nearly have emerged as an Atari! ;v) // Chris coming in from Germany \X/ on AutoPilot 1.051……….
#107895From: Steve AhlstromJul 22, 1993 12:30 PM
Christian, That's not exactly the story… Amiga Corp. had a cash problem. They'd negotiated a deal with (Warner owned) Atari that would give them x amount of money (it's been too long and I don't remember the actual figure) in return for Atari's use of the Amiga chip set in a "non-computer" product (meaning a game machine). There was an out in the contract … if Amiga Corp repaid the investment in full within a certain period of time the contract was null and void. When Tramiel purchased Atari from Warner he thought he had the rights to the Amiga chip set. He did, but the but the time period for the cancellation of the contract had not expired. With less than a week remaining before the contract was to go into force, Commodore purchased Amiga Corp outright and repaid Atari. There were multiple lawsuits over this action and the accusation of former Commodore employees taking proprietary info with them when they join Tramiel at Atari. Eventually this was all worked out with the outcome going against both companies. Part of the settlement called for the nondisclosure of damages. -sja