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#Rumor Roundup

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#154327From: Steve AhlstromJun 28, 1994 1:42 PM
On 28 June, AmigaWorld is reporting that a "half dozen" companies are interested in all or part of Commodore's assets. These company's identities cannot be made public, according to AmigaWorld, because of a court order by the Bahamian Supreme Court. It was reported that all interested parties have until 15 July 1994 to submit written proposals _and_ cash deposits. It is not known when any announcement will be made as to who will have acquired what, but all parties are aware that time is of the essense and an announcement IS expected within 7-10 days after the 15 July deadline. To date, only one entity has submitted a written proposal and placed a good faith cash deposit. While this group has not be identified, they reportedly have committed to resuming production of all current Amiga models (4000, 1200, CD32) and continued Amiga development. ————– The above is basically what AmigaWorld is reporting. Give them a call directly at 800-441-4403 ext 365 for their recorded message and see how well (or not) I've paraphrased … I've been told this number also works from Canada. Now, according to rumor mill stuff, Channel 4000, a dealer news service (which is ending its operation this Thursday) sponsored by Alpha, the former marketing folks for Newtek, are reporting that ALL bidders have dropped out except for a small consortium consisting of the US distributor, CEI (Creative Equipment, Inc., located in Miami) and an entity known as Electric Brain. It is rumored that Samsung's bid, which was rejected by the court on 31 May, was for $1.2M. Samsung appears to be totally out of the picture, having not submitted a higher bid since then. The entity who has submitted the written proposal, cash deposit, and commitment to the continuance of the desktop systems is said to be the CEI consortium. Recently CEI has bankrolled the production of the 1962 monitors and are about to produce a networking card. -sja
#154353From: SEAN KELLYJun 28, 1994 6:56 PM
Way to go Steve. It's still all under the "rumor" umbrella but it would seem to be one of the more reliable things we've seen and certainly ends a bit of a drought. Keep your ears to the ground. BTW, I was going over some ancient Amiga magazines and saw an article you wrote in 1987. Since I see your name on here daily, it kind of jumped out at me. The magazine was something kind of obscure I think, It's the only one in the collection I bought with my A1000.
#154355From: Steve AhlstromJun 28, 1994 7:13 PM
Sean, It was probably Transactor for the Amiga … most of the sysops here wrote either columns or feature articles for them.
#154357From: SEAN KELLYJun 28, 1994 7:41 PM
You're right, that's it. Most of what I can recall from the magazine made it seem like it would take quite a bit more computer knowledge than one has to have these days. Most of the applications were written by the computer owner! Glad I don't have to do that. One reason I was going through the old rags was to learn what products might have been available for my old 1000 back when they were all the rage. I sure can't find much for it now.
#154516From: Steve SetzerJun 29, 1994 2:25 PM
I only have one copy of Transactor left BUT in that one issue there are articles or columns from you, Don Curtis, Betty Clay, and Larry Phillips (or is that Philips <g>) …Steve Cruising on Autopilot from beautiful Coastal South Carolina
#154522From: Steve AhlstromJun 29, 1994 3:25 PM
Steve, Yes, Don, Larry, and I wrote monthly columns, Betty wrote many feature articles, as did Bob Rakosky and John Toebes.
#154364From: Chris LesterJun 28, 1994 8:34 PM
Are you a PI in your "off-keyboard" time or something? <g> Now for the billion dollar question, does our consortium have the bucks to push the machine as it should be pushed, or do we just prolong the suffering? Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! Virus Scan: MS-Windows Detected. Delete (y/Y)?
#154414From: Jim PlantJun 29, 1994 12:32 AM
I spoke to an official from the group that is the frontrunner to purchase Commodore's assets (sorry, can't disclose the name) and asked about the probability of new machines in the near future. This person confirmed that the new machines was an immediate and high priority. He went on to say that the AAA chip set would be completed and new-technology machines would be manufactured. He mentioned that he had been in touch with Tim Jenison as well as other Amiga developers, and he told me that an Amiga developers conference would be scheduled immediately following a successful bid. He believed their position in the race for Commodore assets was strong, but noted that "11th hour" deals could always change the situation. The information I received from this gentlemen matched other information I had heard from other sources. He confirmed that nothing significant would be heard before July 15th. All in all, I left this conversation feeling very optimistic about the near-term future of the Amiga. Jim Plant-Editor/Video Toaster User
#154444From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaJun 29, 1994 1:14 AM
Jim, many thanks for the feedback – might help get back some of that much needed sleep … DJ
#154577From: Grant BoucherJun 29, 1994 11:22 PM
Indeed, the white knight of our dear little amiga is a blast from the past with an eye on the future…I too am now very encouraged… Grant Boucher – Amblin Imaging "It's hard to believe grown-ups do this for a living."
#154609From: Steve AhlstromJun 30, 1994 1:15 AM
Grant, A blast from the past, yes. Is that necessarily good? My understanding is that the involvment here is mostly games. Obviously I'm speaking circuitously here, but by implication I'm sure we're on the same page (for others, find out who Electric Brain is an who is involved with them). A couple of interesting things came to my attention today … and since I will not attribute source, call it strictly rumor. That rumor says that Gould got his loan to CBU paid back in inventory … a LOT of inventory. That inventory is being sold (or has recently been purchased). There will no doubt shortly be a flood of machines on the market … mostly PAL and mostly 1200s. Another rumor has it that in the last couple of days Samsung has re-entered the picture. However, with their $1.2M bid of last month you have to wonder how serious they are. It's been told to me that no one in the bidding is even coming close to approaching $15M … they either all think they can get what they want at fire sale pricing (most likely true, it will go to the highest bidder pretty much regardless of bid) or there is really little interest there.
#154925From: Grant BoucherJul 2, 1994 11:47 AM
I have always liked the Electric Brain Dude and we have a LOT of friends in common. Straight from the horse's mouth it sounds like more than games and there's more than him involved (read: real money). As far as Samsung goes, nothing like another suitor to rekindle a romance…they'll need a bigger ring…1.2 million is PATHETIC. I haven't heard about them for a month, but there is a another group interested in just manufacturing boxes. That may be CEI tied in with the white knight, but you wouldn't believe the companies who privately researched buying CBM's technology! It's good to see we have sysops who are genuinely well connected! I am going to buy new Amigas when they come out, whether they be Pheonix 5000s or not! Grant Boucher – Amblin Imaging "It's hard to believe grown-ups do this for a living."
#155011From: Steve AhlstromJul 3, 1994 12:00 AM
Grant, I hope you're right about the "real money" … it will take that overcome the damage in the public's eye that Commodore has inflicted via Ali's incompetence. The actual purchase of the technology rights will be cheap compared to what it will take to resume production and continue development. -sja
#155060From: Grant BoucherJul 3, 1994 10:55 AM
Good news is that Ali is now OUT OF THE PICTURE!!! Forever, kaput… Grant Boucher – Amblin Imaging "It's hard to believe grown-ups do this for a living."
#155068From: Steve AhlstromJul 3, 1994 11:57 AM
Grant, I'd heard that Ali was out of the picture as for as being an officer of the company but had been hired back as a consultant.
#155089From: Garry NelsonJul 3, 1994 5:28 PM
Steve – Yeah, that way they'll know what NOT to do… Future Owners: Mr Ali, what would YOU do in this situation? Ali: Oh, I'd do THIS and THIS. Future Owners, at the planning meeting later: We really shouldn't do this – Ali recommended it, and you know where THAT will lead us… Garry Nelson And, on the 67th day, Amiga Shall Rise From The Grave…
#155291From: John M. VreelandJul 5, 1994 4:06 PM
>I'd heard that Ali was out of the picture as for as being an officer of the company >but had been hired back as a consultant. Steve, if I were in charge of hiring consultants for the Amiga there is something that I would love to say to Ali. "If I want your opinion I'll beat it out of you." Not, of course, that I would do something so rash. I would simply leave Mr. Ali wondering why I was smiling so obstinately. -John M. Vreeland in Virginia
#154586From: Robert ComerJun 29, 1994 11:51 PM
Thanks Jim! I always like to hear potentially good news, though I wish we didn't have to wait so long! Bob Comer — AmigaDOS and OS/2, the only way to compute! Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#154917From: Chris LesterJul 2, 1994 11:38 AM
Sure looks good so far. . . now to hurry up and wait a bit longer! <g> Thanks for the info… Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! Virus Scan: MS-Windows Detected. Delete (y/Y)?
#154498From: Arnie CachelinJun 29, 1994 12:09 PM
I would take anything from channel4000 with a shaker of salt, as they have not been known for the accuracy of their reporting.
#154501From: Steve AhlstromJun 29, 1994 1:12 PM
Arnie, I agree, that's why I prefaced it with "Now, according to rumor mill stuff, Channel 4000 …" -sja
#154619From: Wayne ColeJun 30, 1994 2:26 AM
Isn't that what 'markteers' are all about? ;^} wmc – via Autopilot!
#154968From: daniel wolfJul 2, 1994 5:44 PM
Hey, Arnie – FractalPro Image Library, Volume 1 CDROM will be out ANY DAY!