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#New cool IPAS stuff…

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#111488From: Dan KemmisJul 6, 1994 3:12 PM
I've got some new cool IPAS effects that I'm thinking of selling. I'd like some opinions as to the value of these? The new ipas stuff generates "TV reception effects" under video post. From snow and v-hold problems to interferance and signal loss and a bunch more. ( the tracking error is my personal favorite…) I layer a whack of them for super cool stuff. 3 questions? 1. Would you use 'em? 2. Would $300 be too much??? 3. Do you spend much time in v-post? I'd like to thank those who help out in advance… You're cool Dr Pixel
#111492From: ALAN IGLESIASJul 6, 1994 3:50 PM
Sounds like great stuff for those who generate animation for productions that have live monitors on-camera, Dan. Don't know that I'd need 'em right away, but they sure sound interesting! My .02$. You cool IPAS stud, -Alan
#111494From: David J. MarksJul 6, 1994 3:57 PM
<<3 questions>> 1 & 2: I would have a hard time using them in my work (it's fairly technically oriented), so I certainly couldn't justify $300. I could see them used more heavily in game development, where "communication" simulations are more likely. 3. Spending more and more time in v-post these days…
#111538From: ARA GREGORIANJul 6, 1994 8:09 PM
hi dan: i like what you describe about your ipas stuff. i also think that they are very specific in their use and as a result probably will have limmited use in animations, but when effects of that kind are needed they can really be useful. as a result of their very specific use i think $300.00 is a bit too much for ME to justify buying them. but i would have no problem at about $100.00.(how many ipas routiens do we have in this package?) also i think VP is an increadible tool that as time goes by will become more and more importent. take care ara
#111570From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Jul 6, 1994 11:44 PM
How many did you say you had? If you have five or six then they would average out to about $50 or $60 each. I think that is a fair price. Keep in mind the supply/demand phenomenon. Since these are somewhat specialized you may have a limmited audience. You can always broaden the audience by lowering the price. — James — MAP —
#111584From: M. G. BATCHELORJul 7, 1994 1:20 AM
While I think the concept of these routines is very original, I believe they would only have a limited demand. BILL
#111716From: Dan KemmisJul 7, 1994 6:18 PM
Hey; Thanks for the good input on the new IPAS stuff. I think I'll let 'em go for $150 after I started thinking about it. Your input has helped me come to rest… Thanks again Dr Pixel
#111778From: ARA GREGORIANJul 8, 1994 2:08 AM
dan: when do you plan to have them out for sale? are you planning to sell them direct? ara
#111855From: Dan KemmisJul 8, 1994 4:29 PM
Ara They will be shipping next week! The 'lectro age is awesome from the point of product development… Thanks for the interest Doc Pixel
#111812From: Don ConnorsJul 8, 1994 9:59 AM
What routines are you offering? Don
#111858From: Dan KemmisJul 8, 1994 4:31 PM
A good bud of mine has made some cool new stuff that sims TV reception effects… Like snow, loss of v-hold and tracking errors… The set runs under v-post and is selling direct from me (NW Tech in Bellevue Wa) for $150. I'll make some cool 80×60 or so flcs over the weekend for your review… Ipas is cool! Dr Pixel
#112434From: Arturo SinclairJul 12, 1994 1:15 PM
Hi, somewhere I read of a routine that simulates film grain, scratches and other film "artifacts". I do not know if it is an IPAS routine. Don't even know if it works for .FLC or .FLI. Maybe it is for "high end" Softimage, Wavefront kind of stuff. I am interested in that routine since I am tryying to match some computer generated environments with film stock. Any help in locating this will be appreciated. Arturo
#112454From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Jul 12, 1994 3:17 PM
Arturo, << somewhere I read of a routine that simulates film grain, scratches and other film "artifacts". I do not know if it is an IPAS routine.>> You're describing OLDMV.IXP available from The Pyros Partnership's Medias Library. jonas[adesk]
#112489From: Arturo SinclairJul 12, 1994 6:01 PM
Handshake to you :>
#113113From: Marion K. MarksJul 15, 1994 4:30 PM
Actually, there are two such routines. OLDMV simulates the "old movie" effect, complete with scratches, dust, fungus, color fade, and even optional sepia tone and jitter. More generally useful is a separate Pyros package (I forget the name of the actual routine, but it is an .IPX and the package name is Film Grain) that adds subtle film-style graininess that isn't intended to be noticeable as a special effect, but instead makes the whole animation look less "computery" and more "real" by simulating the kind of noise that film or a video camera would introduce. One advantage is that this adds the kind of chrominance noise that JPEG and similar compression algorithms (such as ImMIX's Wavelet) expect to see in live video, causing them to have something other than the actual details of your images to "lose" for their "lossiness." Your animations thus hold up better under high compression ratios.
#113156From: John TissavaryJul 15, 1994 8:50 PM
Jeez, that's a pretty good idea! I'm going to have to try that out… John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#113158From: John TissavaryJul 15, 1994 9:15 PM
Jeez, that's a pretty good idea! I'm going to have to try that out… John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#112608From: Nik Grant [adesk]Jul 13, 1994 6:50 AM
'a routine that simulates film grain, scratches and other film "artifacts"' Arturo, you might want to check out the following files: File Info for IPAS.TXT Section: IPAS Usage Contributer: 73027,3632 Size: 41513 Submitted: 03-Feb-94 Type: Text Accesses: 557 Title: Text of all IPAS routines from all manufacturers! Keys: IPAS AXP SXP PXP IXP BXP PYROS This is the latest version of IPAS.TXT, the often updated text file of all the IPAS routines from all the vendors I have found! Latest update is January 31, 1994. Enjoy – Greg Pyros (Approximate download time at 2400 bps using CIS B: 2:20) (An ASCII file; read online, capture to a file, or download with a protocol) File Info for IPAS.ZIP Section: IPAS Usage Contributer: 73027,3632 Size: 2697 Submitted: 19-Apr-93 Type: Binary Accesses: 639 Title: New IPAS routines announcement! Keys: ACTION IPAS PYROS SPECIAL EFFECTS This is a text file describing the Pyros Partnership "ACTION IPAS" routine libraries, which start shipping April 19, 1993. . .(Approximate download time at 2400 bps using CIS B: 0:10)
#112611From: Gus GrubbaJul 13, 1994 6:57 AM
I've written two routines that will do the two things you talked about. First, one called Film Grain which will match the granularity of stock film with the given ISO number (film speed). The second is less technical and more fun. It's a routine that will make your flic look like an old film, with washed out colors (sepia), spots, scratches and even wabbles from disaligned projectors. They are being sold by Pyros Partnership (714) 833-0334.