CompuServe Thread

Thai Tektites,

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#135650From: Adrian WhiteJun 26, 1994 5:01 AM
Hi everyone, If you are interested in in buying or trading Thai tektites, of all shapes and sizes, drop me a message. Examples of dumbells, discs, balls, available. Bumbell about 3 inches approx. USD20. Adrian White
#135692From: Doug MitchellJun 26, 1994 10:54 PM
Hi, Adrian– Welcome to the forum/section! I see you did not mention button tektites – I would be interested in a tektite showing aerodynamic shaping, say a button with flanges. I am not particular as to which location/field it comes from. Is there something special about Thai tektites compared to other fields of tektites? –Doug
#135832From: Adrian WhiteJun 28, 1994 7:34 AM
Hi, Doug Thanks for the welcome. Tektites from Thailand apparantly have been analysed by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center and they have established that they are a result of volcanic activity on the moon some 750,000 years ago. Lunar samples from Apollo 11 and 12 are similar to the chemical characteristics of Thai tekies. I have three disc shaped ones, about 3" dia. that are the shape of a red blood cell. They are black glass with lots of pitting and some melt stress lines. Is this what you are after ? Leaving Bangkok tomorrow and going onto Singapore will logon there. Adrian
#136110From: Doug MitchellJul 1, 1994 12:40 PM
Hi, Adrian– I had the vague impression that the only theory of tektite formation still in good shape was that tektites were ejected from major impacts on earth. A post-Apollo result supporting the lunar volcanism theory is quite interesting, implying such "recent" activity up there – do you know of such results for the other fields of tektites, positive or negative? I imagine that result and your interest applies to tektites from "Indochina" as well, since I think they are part of the same field. If I show kids a flanged button tektite, it would be easy to convince them that it was shaped by air flows. A red-blood-cell shape (is this the shape referred to as "dumbbell" or the "disc" shape?) is intriguing, but I would have to do a lot of arm-waving to try to justify that as a shape caused by fast motion through air, especially since I do not understand it myself (it seems the tektite was rotating rapidly when it melted, but other than that the shape still puzzles me). If that $20 figure applies to the 3" red-blood-cell shaped tektites, I am ready to buy. –Doug
#136154From: Tom LeCompte-SysopJul 1, 1994 9:43 PM
I'm really puzzled. Maybe you could explain something. The moon has no magnetic field to speak of, and that means that its core (unlike the earths) is frozen solid. I would expect the moon to be a *lot* less geologically active than the earth – do you know if this is the case? It would surprise me if there were active volcanos on the moon 750,000 years ago – which is a blink of an eye compared to the sorts of time scales in planetary evolution.
#136376From: Doug MitchellJul 4, 1994 6:43 PM
Hi, Tom– I also have the impression that the moon lacks the activity of earth, and was somewhat surprised that lunar volcanism of recent vintage is still suspected. The presumed absence of a significant molten core does suggest that there is little heat, and thus little or no mantle convection, which I expect has been the case since the first half billion years or so. But I can imagine volcanism that might be driven by tidal forces alone (the moon cannot precisely face the earth at all times, thus there are still the tugs that try to make it do so) – perhaps heating due to tidal forces is mostly at the surface. While I see no mechanism that would concentrate radioactives in small volumes near the surface, I cannot be sure there are none, and they also might supply small magma reservoirs. A radioactive meteorite buried under the surface, maybe?? –Doug
#136475From: Guy HammerJul 5, 1994 8:56 PM
Hi, Doug > The presumed absence of a significant molten core… I seem to recall an experiment conducted at about the close of the Apollo program. On one of the missions, a small seismic detector was left behind. On a subsequent mission, explosive charges were buried a good bit around the moon from the seismometer. when the charges were touched off the moon 'rang like a bell' in the words of one of the reseachers. The conclusion at the time was that the moon's core is solid. > … and they also might supply small magma reservoirs. Hmmm, more research is indicated, when can we go? 😉 Regards, Guy
#136908From: Doug MitchellJul 9, 1994 2:43 PM
Hi, Guy, Tom, Adrian– I found my copy of "The Meteorite & Tektite Collector's Handbook", (C)1991 by Philip M. Bagnall. He mentions "studies of lunar material returned by the Apollo program does [sic] not support a lunar origin for tektites"; we will have to lock him in a room with the conductor of NASA study of Thai tektite compositions which Adrian mentioned and see who comes out in the best shape. Regarding volcanism on the moon, he mentions the "Some astronomers have witnessed discoloration of certain lunar craters – the so-called Lunar Transient Phenomenon (LTP) – which may be caused by degassing through fissures in the Moon's crust as it opens under gravitational tidal forces, but this reaction is a long way from full-blown volcanism." Actually, we do not need "full-blown volcanism" to get tektites from the moon; if this degassing is sudden and violent enough, even on a small scale, maybe it can fire off some proto-tektites at lunar escape velocity. I gather the moon is short of volatiles, so I am wondering whether a source for such gasses has been observed. –Doug