CompuServe Thread

#ENTRY LEVEL VIDEO SYSTEM

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#86447From: MICHAEL E. ALLENJul 18, 1994 9:33 AM
It seems as though I asked a question that may not have been appropriate for this forum. I certainly didn't want to start an argument. Since I am new to the video scene, I was trying to explore all options. I had heard from the start that for fx and animation the Toaster was the thing to go with. I have seen video and live demos of the Toaster and was very impressed. It soon became obvious that the Toaster didn't edit. So I was faced with the reality that I was going to have to spend (my company was going to have to spend) money on editing equipment as well if I was going to go with the Toaster. And since we have many PCs in our office it would be easier for me to buy products that are PC compatible. Since leaving my original message I have been investigating a product call Cineworks by D/Vision. It is a PC based NLE system that also has a 3D package built in. This system has limitations, but it may be something I have to live with. It does seem to me that the Toaster is the ultimate in fx and animation and the Amiga technology should'nt die. I just don't know if my company will invest in that much equipment. Thanks for all your comments Mike
#86450From: Arnie CachelinJul 18, 1994 11:11 AM
Editing (Linear) systems like the TAO editizer that run on a PC can control Toasters, Decks, etc. for a full editing solution. The Amiga/Toaster combo is the Switcher peripheral on this setup. If the TBCs are PC compatible, then the only Amiga specific investment is the Computer and Toaster. Even Drives can be shared. This means ~4-6K tied up 'til an effective replacement is available. NLE is IMHO not really there yet, and the pioneers still get the arrows in their backs on that frontier. You may well be uncertain of the future of Amiga stuff, but the present is pretty good. You can be sure that the current PC/Mac NLE solutions will be superceded very rapidly, particularly at this point, where the field is exploding, and hardware is just beginning to keep up with real video (60 fields /sec .. the Mac people just heard of fields at this NAB, they claimed 30 fps was broadcast last year ;-o ). If you have to get going now, buy a Toaster system as flexible as possible (a used one even?). If you can wait, wait as long as possible.
#86452From: Gary KleinerJul 18, 1994 11:19 AM
From what I've read, Cineworks output has a particular "look" to it. I for one, don't accept that as viable. If time is not of the essence, hang on a few more months to see what's going to happen with NewTek's Video Flyer (non-linear for the Toaster). Regards, Gary
#86482From: Thomas HarmonJul 18, 1994 7:34 PM
Don't worry 'bout the argument.. Jerry has always been vocal. I hope that Cineworks works just fine for you.. Good Luck.. -Tom-
#86563From: Charles BlaquiereJul 19, 1994 10:12 PM
Michael, please don't leave this conversation with the impression that one should steer away from Amiga Forums. This is a touchy time for us all, with the future of our platform in the balance. This brings justified recoil from business-minded users like Jerry Saperstein, and understandable insecurity from enthusiastic supporters like Thomas Harmon. Don't feel guilty about starting a spirited thread — we get'em all the time. I personally feel that someone with a desktop video-related question who isn't asking on an Amiga Forum is doing themselves a disservice. In my mind, the best strategy when it comes to Big, Basic Questions like "which computer should I buy to…?" is to ask on several machine-specific Forums, along with some industry-related Forums. This way, you'll get opinions from all sides — typically, people vaunting their machines while trashing other platform. You can collect that information and put it to good use, such as double-checking everything said about other platforms in their specific Forum. To me, that's where a central information clearinghouse like CompuServe really pays off. My two cents' worth? Ohh, a bit of both sides. I'm primarily going to buy upgrades which can follow me if I have to switch to another platform, such as my Bernoulli 150M transportable SCSI drive; apart from that, I'm staying put for now. My Amiga serves me very well with the suite of software I've built up over the years. But if I were a business user, faced with deciding whether to _enter_ the Amiga world rather than _build_ on it, I'd be as reticent as Jerry. Unless, of course, the desktop video world is as polarized as others say (i.e. Toaster's still the only viable product), and I have trouble believing that. Blaq!