CompuServe Thread

#PAR HD's

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#178689From: John EllisJul 6, 1995 10:13 AM
Hiya Don, I'm asking you because you've probably got a better idea on this than anyone including people at DPS (oops <g>). So what's the deal with these Mode 4 IDE's like Western Digital, any possibility that they'll run on the PAR. Jeez looking at the specs 16mb a second + transfer rate, don't know if that's sustained but it sounds like it… now I really wonder if some of these people jumping on the PVR bandwagon aren't being a little hasty… You know I'm a real believer in SCSI but as the PAR is an independent solution with a dedicated drive it really doesn't matter… 16mb's a second transfer rate would give a pretty clean image I would think… imagine capture at that rate… no artifacts… Is it a question of DPS having a driver? Or the hd's not having T-cal to contend with… Just very curious because there has been little to nothing mentioned about the increased throughput on these IDE's let alone anyone stating that its doable, and I probably wouldn't have made the connection except that you mentioned this many many months ago as a possibility… John
#178714From: Don LandisJul 6, 1995 11:17 AM
I've been trying to find out more on this myself. While at Comdex I talked to a rep from WD and he explained that in order to achieve these transfer rates the entire system must be configured around the requirements of the Mode 5 drives. Just as Mode 3 now requires a special controller with onboard bios to support it so will mode 5. Mode 3 requires the system be at least 486-66 with a Vesa LB enhanced controller with support for the Mode 3 drives. With Mode 5 the system will require a minimum of Pentium 75 with a PCI bus controller with on board bios to match the drive. So, it looks doubtful that the existing PAR will support these Mode 5 drives unless DPS is able to make some retrofit on their controller. This doesn't seem possible with existing PAR's as it will require PCI bus interface on the PAR. After this discussion with WD I left with the disappointing opinion that this will not be available in the forseeable future. ie by just swapping drives with a mode 5. Of course the discussion of this stuff will certainly plant seeds and maybe the seeds will sprout. One additional note, When the proper configuration is not in place these mode 5 and 3 HD's revert to conventional transfer rates. Don Landis
#178765From: John EllisJul 6, 1995 6:23 PM
Don, I don't know about mode 3 or 5 but I've seen WD showing off mode 4 with these specs. I don't know if they're AV compatible… seems the controller is the issue here… retrofits have in the past been an awarkward proposition but if its just a matter of changing a chip it might not be too difficult. The other question is on the drivers… does the PAR have specific drivers for each drive or does it matter… that would be an important consideration. I don't know but considering that the PVR is priced in the same category you'd think something was in the works… or at least possible… either way its an interesting scenario for further exploration… Thanks for the insight… John PS as the controller and harddrive are joined directly I don't know why you'd have to have PCI to make it work… one of the advantages to the direct link that the PAR benefits from… don't know if this has any bearing on the issue but I though I'd mention it…