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NT, 3ds, and DEC Alpha

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#178691From: Dennis GoodJul 6, 1995 10:19 AM
Fast? Definitely. Several people here have tested them. The question is . . . will the tools that we use be available to run on that system? Several people have already placed their bets on the affirmative side. We shall see.
#180406From: Jose Antonio OrtollJul 16, 1995 12:04 PM
If ever they plan to release it, when do you think it shall be? (give your best guess)
#180618From: Dennis GoodJul 17, 1995 8:18 PM
If they have it ready in time, we'll probably see it at SIGGRAPH. If not – maybe Q2 '96. This guess is just that – I have no personal contacts inside Yost Group, and no magic ball. By that time there should be some adequate compilers that will ease the task of creating multi-threaded applications. Hey! Programmers! Any of you guys have any input on that front?
#180646From: Bradley J. ArtigueJul 18, 1995 1:27 AM
To be honest, I am disappointed in the lack of progress in 3D Studio. Let's face reality; most of us used Release 2 and now use Release 4…and what has improved? You may say "a lot", but Autodesk markets 3DS as a stand-alone modeling environment (I used to be a multimedia reseller). But without AutoCAD, I find 3D Studio to be quite a burden…for example, I can't even snap to a line, or do a trim (know what I mean?) What I find with 3D Studio is that we have a very good system for applying materials and creating animations, but what I would like to see is a complete modeling system. I may be overstepping "reality", but I would love to see a robust 2D to 3D modeling environment…a kind of CAD to 3D environment. Just some sort of standardization between AutoCAD and 3D Studio. Most of all, I hate being left in the dark…I make part of my living with 3D Studio and to be quite honest, if they don't announce a future to the package soon, I will start looking at Lightwave and SGI for results. It costs a lot more to wait for results
#180782From: Dennis GoodJul 18, 1995 8:29 PM
>> I can't even snap to a line, or do a trim<< Yes, I know. I do almost all of my modeling in ACAD strictly because I am an engineering-oriented fellow that likes to know how big my models are, where they are, and how the pieces fit together. 3dS' modeling environment was definitely intended for those that needed to produce items in terms of "relative" size, i.e., how large is that bowling ball relative to the head it's plowing through? I doubt that we are going to see much of a change on this front. It would disrupt ACAD's product lineup. >> I am disappointed in the lack of progress in 3D Studio<< No doubt, r4 was more of an incremental upgrade than everyone had hoped for. As far as being left in the dark – yeah, it's hard to take, but SIGGRAPH is only a few weeks away . . .
#180811From: Yost GroupJul 18, 1995 9:56 PM
Given the 50 minutes of world class animation on our demo reel this year, quite a few people are able to get phenomenal modeling, rendering and animation results with 3DS. If you feel that the software isn't what you need, perhaps you ought to switch to something that's more suited to you.
#180865From: Craig NeubauerJul 19, 1995 8:00 AM
Speaking of the Demo Reel, have the notices been sent out. And, are only those who made it in the Reel being notified ? I won't be able to attend SIGGRAPH this year, so if we want to get a copy of the Reel, can we only get it through our dealer ?
#180897From: Yost GroupJul 19, 1995 11:24 AM
Notices haven't been sent out yet. That's being handled by the folks at Autodesk, and it usually happens right about Siggraph time. I'm not sure if just the folks who made it will get notices, or if everyone will. Forum members will be able to get copies of the reel with a SASE, once I find a kind soul to help me out with that.
#180903From: Craig NeubauerJul 19, 1995 11:57 AM
Thanks Gary and World Class is an understatement for what can be accomplished with 3DS!
#180977From: Bradley J. ArtigueJul 19, 1995 7:00 PM
Now there's an interesting attitude. I never once stated that 3D Studio is not what I need, only that, like all software, it lacks in some features that I could use. I make up for this lack in flexibility with AutoCAD. Don't get defensive; your software is more than enough to suit my needs and I am happy with the investment in it. Insulting your clients is a sure-fire way to lose them.
#180984From: PETER CASANOJul 19, 1995 7:57 PM
Their reply was snippy.
#181313From: Bradley J. ArtigueJul 21, 1995 8:30 AM
Peter: Everybody gets offended sometimes, probably due to the fact that all of our conversations are through eMail…I just hate to see a misunderstanding turn into a situation where someone starts getting defensive. Fortunately, that didn't happen…
#181013From: Yost GroupJul 19, 1995 11:02 PM
There is no such thing as a 'perfect' program. I sensed that that's what you desired. – G
#181068From: Ted BoardmanJul 20, 1995 9:25 AM
>> Let's face reality; most of us used Release 2 and now use Release 4…and what has improved? < Bradley, WHAT are you talking about? The 3DS modeling is much better than Acad for lots of things. How about a boat hull or screw threads in Acad just to name two. You're right, no Osnaps<g> -Ted Boardman !^NavFont01F000FMGJHG4FMG50HGEB1019
#181312From: Bradley J. ArtigueJul 21, 1995 8:28 AM
Ted: Sorry about the confusion; I really should have elaborated that point. As a whole, Release 4 blows r2 away, but I believe I was talking about the 2d modeling functions when I made that statement (although the 3d modeling functions would apply as well). Despite the obvious speed increase, I don't find that r4 has a whole lot more to offer (in the modeling sense) that r2. It is hard to create a technical drawing in 3D Studio and animate it. I have found it to be much more cost-effective to design in AutoCAD (because of features like Osnaps, a good Trim facility (not boolean, which drives me crazy sometimes, etc…) than 3D Studio. Now, many of you may not do engineering animations; therefore, you don't need a real powerhouse 2d/3d modeling system like AutoCAD…but I do. Hope that cleared up that statement. Brad
#181332From: Ted BoardmanJul 21, 1995 10:53 AM
>> Sorry about the confusion << Hi Brad, Yes, 2D in 3DS is quite basic and if you need complex, accurate 2D shapes Acad certainly does shine. Some times, though, trying to use the same model in both 3DS and Acad is more trouble than it's worth, because they are for different ends. I do understand your point of view and wanted to make sure that folks understand that 3DS is a great modeler; it is not and never will be (I hope<G>) a technical drawing tool. Thanks for the clarification -Ted Boardman !^NavFont01F000DMGJHG`MGbHH8DC261