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#Recordable CD-ROM info?

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#182396From: Jul 26, 1995 11:17 PM
Hello out there! We are looking into getting a recordable CD-ROM system, mainly for archive backup, but also to make it easier to send large graphics files to other companies, and also rotoscoped files. Has anyone had any experiences with any particular units, good or bad? We are looking at the Pinnacle, but also looking for suggestions! Thanks, Greg Pyros
#182408From: Paul LindJul 27, 1995 12:05 AM
Junk. 'nuf said? Hold off a week and we can discuss it. Paul
#182482From: Jul 27, 1995 2:08 PM
Paul: >> [Pinnacle] Junk. 'nuf said? I love it when you come quickly to the point like that! Now don't hold back on me, what do you _really_ think? :^) >> Hold off a week and we can discuss it. You're going to make me wait a week to get a new toy? Boy, you sure are demanding at times! OK. See you in a week! Greg Pyros
#182413From: John SchmidtJul 27, 1995 12:20 AM
Greg, >> We are looking at the Pinnacle I saw Paul L.'s reply, and while it may not be the best available out there, it's been a good solution for us, (for the money); we've had it pay for itself several times over already. We've been using one for a couple months now, with generally excellent results. (Burning an average of 3-5 CD's per day.) It also works fine for regular CD use in DOS and Windows, but NT won't recognize it until Pinnacle gets a set of drivers out for NT; supposed to be happening RSN. We haven't actually used the backup program that comes with it, (it *looks* pretty good), though we have used it for some straight archiving. What we've mainly been doing is putting some programs on CD that contain lots of very large MPEG and AVI files, (interactive corporate training videos); these programs run the video files right off the CD, and burning them ourselves makes it nice whenever we have to change the code, (so we don't have a box of outdated pre-written CD's laying around). The manuals could be written a little clearer, (it often tells you what to do, but not where to find the commands, etc., and really jumps from place to place), and the driver installation instructions were wrong in our manual, (correct on the readme file, finally), but in general, we've been very happy with it. (Maybe we don't use it as hard as Paul L.; but we haven't had a single problem with it, once we understood how to run the software. Now, if they'd just get the Yost Group to write the manual… Anyway, if you've got more questions, feel free to ask; I've had quite a bit of experience with it. I'll answer as best I can. Like I said, there are undoubtedly better ones, but for the money, it's worked well for us., John
#182419From: Paul LindJul 27, 1995 1:11 AM
>(Burning an average of 3-5 CD's per day.) WOW! If you've burned 180-300 CD's with it in a couple of months, you've used it ALOT more than I have. I was merely referring to the technical data and what it can be used for. We write to our units from Mac,PC, and SGI machines and need seemless cross platform compatability. Lack of Digital Optical Fiber conncectors, Daisy Chaining ability, etc. turned us off to the unit. Speed, Ram buffer size etc. were also lacking from our standpoint. Some of our other units are just generally alot easier, faster, more rugged, etc. I probably shouldn't have used such a harsh adjective. I just responded that way because Greg was asking the question and he tends to discriminate on equipment purchases the way we do. When Greg and I talk off of CIS we tend to be extremely blunt and straightforward about our opinions. It carries over. Glad to hear your unit works well for you, want to buy another one? <BG> Paul
#182427From: KEVIN MCFARLANDJul 27, 1995 2:43 AM
Paul… Saw your message re: CD burner. I need one also… I read an article on the Pinnacle in Multimedia World Mag when it first came out. They gave it pretty good marks, but they are only $2K or so. I understand it's a "smaller" unit, but are they really junk? I wouldn't need something as heavy duty as you are perhaps used to. Another machine I'm considering is the JVC w/the 1G hard drive. The've gone down from $9K to about $4200 (in one year, wow!). Any knowledge on that one? Any recommendations on something decent? Units are gonna be out by the tons soon, I believe, so it'll be tuff keeping up with the good and the junk. I'd only need sumpin' dependable, with moron type mastering code, etc. Your thoughts? Thanks, Kev.
#182471From: Paul LindJul 27, 1995 1:32 PM
I personally prefer the JVC units, better construction, more features, similar pricing. Junk shouldn't have been my word of reference. Check them both out thoroughly and I believe you may find another unit more sound for the same $. Paul
#182473From: albert waltnerJul 27, 1995 1:35 PM
>> I read an article on the Pinnacle in Multimedia World Mag >> when it first came out. They gave it pretty good marks, >> but they are only $2K or so. Just a comment from a lurker. A recent catalog from Midwest Micro (big advertiser in computer shopper) has a new model, the Sony Spressa 920 Recordable 2X. It has a SCSI-2 interface and 1 MB buffer, they say. Depending on your opinion of Sony this might be interesting at $1695.
#182457From: John SchmidtJul 27, 1995 11:16 AM
Paul, >> I was merely referring to the technical data and what it can be used for. We write to our units from Mac,PC, and SGI machines and need seemless cross platform compatability. Lack of Digital Optical Fiber conncectors, Daisy Chaining ability, etc. turned us off to the unit. Speed, Ram buffer size etc. were also lacking from our standpoint. Some of our other units are just generally alot easier, faster, more rugged, etc. ———————————- I agree. For us, it was just a cost effective, if not particularly versatile solution. It does only max out at double speed, and I certainly wouldn't want to drag it around town! <g> But since the code we use on the programs we put on CD changes so much, it made a lot more sense than always running over to the service bureau. Budget, you know. <g> And we really do burn that many CD's, (it's usually just running away over in the corner), but if it fails anytime soon, it will still have been worth it. John
#182474From: Paul LindJul 27, 1995 1:39 PM
Definately a great solution. It sounds like you've more than gotten your investment paid for many times over. Thanks for the info. I always enjoy hearing "good" stories relating to equipment uses. Hopefully Greg saw all of this thread. He does afterall have a PAR and an Accom, so who knows what direction he wants to go in. <BG> Paul
#182442From: Dan O'LearyJul 27, 1995 8:34 AM
>> We are looking into getting a recordable CD-ROM system, mainly for archive backup, but also to make it easier to send large graphics files to other companies, and also rotoscoped files. << We have a Sony CDW-900E and have had good experience with it. I would guess that we have burned 100+ CDs in the past 6 months. The main problem we have had is finding software that supports our unit. Most people recommend Easy- CD Pro 3.0, but it doesn't yet support the 900E. Nor does Corel CD Creator, etc. As a result we have been forced to make due with a proprietary Sony package designed for creating Playstation CDs. It would seem that most of the rom burning software is targeted at the low to mid-level writers ($2000 – 4000 range). The 900E is a higher-end machine, with some nice features that aren't available in other models (like you can optically chain up to 12/15? of them together and burn all disks at once). Oh well. Moral: get a burner with good software support! (isn't that always the rule?) – Dan / n-Space, Inc.
#182472From: Paul LindJul 27, 1995 1:32 PM
We have a couple of 900E's, they're one of my favorites. I've seen Easy CDPro running 900E's so I was pretty sure it was directly supported. You should really look at Gear software, it's phenomenal and is unequalled in the industry, ands it works great with the 900E's. Additionally check out QuickTopix or CDGen software for your unit. They're both really nice and directly support the 900E. Gear also directly supports System V/386, HP 9000/700, Solaris, IRIX 5.3, Macs, PowerMacs, of course Dos and Windows, etc. Not to mention that it directly accesses Exabyte 8mm. DAT 4mm, and 9 track drives for quick backup and/or CD generation. Take Care, Paul
#182711From: Dan O'LearyJul 29, 1995 9:16 AM
>> We have a couple of 900E's, they're one of my favorites. I've seen Easy CDPro running 900E's so I was pretty sure it was directly supported. You should really look at Gear software, it's phenomenal and is unequalled in the industry, ands it works great with the 900E's. Additionally check out QuickTopix or CDGen software for your unit. They're both really nice and directly support the 900E. << Very interesting info, Paul. I'm sure we looked into both of these packages, guess we'll have to check again. Thanks much! – Dan / n-Space, Inc.
#182483From: Jul 27, 1995 2:08 PM
Dan, John, et al: Thanks for the great recordable CD-ROM info! Paul's going to make me hold out until Siggraph, I guess I can wait that long to get one. (He hasn't steered me wrong yet!) I'll let you know what I end up with and why. Greg Pyros