CompuServe Thread

#Importance of Criticism

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#6462From: Henry ColonnaAug 16, 1988 9:20 PM
No, art isn't "JUST LIKE" invention. But there are similarities – creating something new that didn't exist before, and all the work that goes into both.
#6583From: Thomas HoladayAug 17, 1988 7:37 AM
A major dissimilarity of Art and Invention is that there's no guessing about the _meaning_ of an invention. "Sheesh, it's a telephone, you talk into it and your voice comes out the other end." There's much less dispute about the _quality_ of an invention. "I said I want to buy a hundred shares of Ashland Oil, and your darn clerk bought two hundred shares of Standard Oil, and don't tell me there must've been a bad connection, because I have a meter on the line." There's little dispute about whether an invention is an improvement over its predecessor. "Lookit this, a phone that can be manufactured for five cents and runs by extracting carbon monoxide from the air!" People build careers, University Departments, to argue about the meaning and quality of Art. And if someone tried to "improve" Hamlet by issuing a more efficient version of the drama, he'd be Missing the Point. "See, in _my_ play, Hamlet's uncle and mother happen to walk in just as the ghost is finishing his story, and Hamlet kills them right then and there. Polonius rushes in and hears the dying king confess, so that puts Hamlet in the clear to marry Ophelia, and he and Laertes go out drinking every Tuesday ever after. Whole thing takes abou one-tenth the time and half the actors of the original! Oh, and we have the same actress play Ophelia and Hamlet's mom, so we have the psychological thing too, but subtle.")
#6652From: Doug WingerAug 17, 1988 6:57 PM
Thol, I'm not sure what you're doing for a career at the moment but it sounds like you could be _very_ successful in Network TV. Doug
#6663From: JEFFREY C. DEGEAug 17, 1988 8:26 PM
Ever read the book "Shrink-Lits"? Takes great works of literature and summarizes them in brief verse. My favorite was "Beowulf". It read: Monster Grendel's tastes were plainish. Breakfast, just a couple Danish. OK, so its sick.
#6678From: Doug WingerAug 17, 1988 9:04 PM
Jeff, And an (original) addition- And after breakfast, before he'd go, He'd have a cuppa, with Swede and Low. Doug
#6992From: John DraperAug 19, 1988 4:54 AM
Personally I rather liked the "Reader's Digest Condensed Programs". One was an adventure game written in Basic: 10 Input "Direction",A$ 20 IF LEFT$(A$,1) = "N" OR LEFT$(A$,1) = "S" THEN PRINT "You win!" 30 IF RIGHT$(A$,1) = "W" OR RIGHT$(A$,1) ="E" THEN PRINT "You died!"
#7090From: Doug WingerAug 19, 1988 9:20 PM
I preferred the Final Fantastic Fundemental Fairytale (c. 1985 D.Winger) Action? >? Help- commands available….use first letter of command to perform action. Fight, Flee, Food (eat), Fix, Forward, Fire, Flummox, Flounce, Find, Fend, Fence, Fuss, Funnel, Furbish, Furl, Fall, Fare (see: Food), Fan, Feed, Feast, Favor, Ferry, Feud, Finance, Filet, Flank, Fish, Flagelate, Flail, Flame, Fly, Flatten, Fling, Flip, Flit, Flood, Flush, Fool, Free, Fry, Frighten, Fuss, Fudge, Fib, Fill, Freeze. You see an increbibly enticing wanton beckoning to you from her bed of furs. You feel compelled to action, and leap atop her. Action? >
#7100From: KEITH YOUNGAug 19, 1988 10:27 PM
F!
#6786From: Vic WagnerAug 18, 1988 3:46 AM
Jeff, PLEASE tell me where I can get a copy of "Shrink-Lits". Who is the author? The ISBN? Something!!
#6839From: JEFFREY C. DEGEAug 18, 1988 12:43 PM
I wish I could help you. It came out as a small paperback about five years (ten?) ago. It was quite popular for a while, at least with the strange folks that I hang out with. I would try "Books in Print".
#6785From: Vic WagnerAug 18, 1988 3:46 AM
Thol, if you're looking for a producer for that nifty modification to Shakespear's play, I think I can find one for you. Do you have any particular actors/actresses in mind for the parts? Please get back to me soon, I'd like to see this _before_ the Christmas season (should be a smash hit).