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#Strange File

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#7285From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 21, 1988 12:33 AM
Could anyone help with this one? It's been driving me nuts! Wordperfect generates several files which are apparently necessary for its internal workings. These files all start with the characters "{sys}". Several are generated by the program and stay resident on the WP disk. Other than take note of them when doing a "Dir" command, one would probably never try to delete them or copy them individually. One, in particular though is generated on the "Print" disk during the printer selection process and subsequently must be copied to the WP disk. It is "{sys}.prt." WP refers to this file as one of the printer "short files." The other short files are "sFont.prt, sFeed.prt, and sPrinter.prt." These three short files can be copied, deleted, listed, etc. The "{sys}.prt" file cannot be copied, listed, or renamed but it CAN be deleted. Trying to LIST it results in an error message, "Directory not found." (!?) If however a LISTing is done of the disk (LIST DF0:, LIST Print:, etc) then "{sys}.prt" (and other {sys}… files) shows up properly displayed along with all the normal files. Trying to COPY "{sys}.prt" to ANY device (physical drive, RAM:, etc) results in disk activity on the source drive and apparent completion of the COPY process as evident by the screen prompt display, but no activity on the destination drive and no copy of the file on the destination disk. "{sys}.prt" CAN be copied using WordPerfect's copy option in the "List Files" requester. As a matter of fact, this is the ONLY way to get "{sys}.prt" from the Print disk to the WP disk. I have never seen this anomaly mentioned before. Have I just missed something that everyone else knows? WP in their on-disk Readme file DOES instruct the user to use the List Files Copy option to copy these files, but they do NOT warn that the copy operation can ONLY be done in this way. What gives? Thanks, Rich
#7289From: Don Curtis/SYSOPAug 21, 1988 2:06 AM
Rich, I don't have WP so don't know for sure, but it's possible that they've got a hidden character in the filename (such as a backspace) because using the straight COPY command, I created and moved around just fine a file I called {sys}.test Don
#7311From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 21, 1988 11:14 AM
Don, Henry has suggested that ARP may be interfering with this filename. I AM using ARP…More checking… Rich
#7298From: Henry ColonnaAug 21, 1988 7:15 AM
Are you using ARP? If so, { is used by ARP for something. Oh well, I wish I could help, but if you are using ARP you may want to go back to Commodore's commands to try this.
#7310From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 21, 1988 11:12 AM
Henry, Yes I am using ARP!. Thanks, I'll check that out. Wow. Talk about incompatibility! Rich
#7343From: Bob RakoskyAug 21, 1988 5:01 PM
Richard, Yes – you have stumbled onto one of the "anomalies" of ARP – the curly braces are treated by the file-name parser as (partially implemented) wild-card characters, and consequently not treated as part of the file name itself. I don't remember a work-around for the problem either, other than to either toss ARP or use a DU-type utility to access/copy these files (and to avoid using curly-braces in file names where you have control of the file name). Hope this at least solves the mystery, if not providing a totally acceptible solution. ..Bob
#7351From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 21, 1988 6:22 PM
Bob, Thanks. See the other replies. Using Copy *.prt will get around the problem somewhat. Although it will copy other .prt files also. The best solution has been the Wordperfect "List Files" requester which allows highlighting of the specific files to copy including a mix of 'normal' files as well as one or more files with the "{" character. What a mess until these replies! Rich
#7319From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIAug 21, 1988 12:59 PM
Richard, The "{" symbol is giving you the problem. Even with ARP you could copy it with 'COPY *.prt dfx:'. Same with LIST. Or, from within WordPerfect, you can copy files from the F5 (List Files) menu. Highlight the files you want to copy, click on COPY (#8). Then just click on YES to the 'copy files' prompt and then type in WHERE you want the files to go. Lloyd
#7350From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 21, 1988 6:17 PM
Lloyd, Yes. I now realize that "{" is the problem. I had completely forgotten about ARP, but even so, did not realize the significance of "{." Rich