#Need HDDISK files
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In my frantic attempts to get my Workbench 1.3.2 to boot off of my
Kickstart 1.2 system, I accidentally vaporized my only copy of hddisk and
hddisk.info files. I do not have them on my WB1.3.2. disk, nor can I find
them in the Amiga libraries. Does anyone know where I can get them?
Eric Pinnell
Eric:
I just looked on my WB 1.0, 1.2 & 1.3.3 disks (as well as the extras disks)
and could not find hddisk device or info. I don't understand it. I thought
those files were included. Have you tried the Amiga File Finder? (GO
AMIGAFF).
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
Eric –
You won't find that file in any of the Libs here or on any other board.
They are Copyrighted software belonging to Commodore and not available in
the public domain. I also don't believe that they were put on the standard
WB and Extra's disks, the are file specific to your controler card. Have
you looked on the disk that came with your A2090 card? That's where those
files should be. If you still don't have them, let me know maybe I can dig
up a copy of that disk. ( I have quickly looked for my copy but can't find
it now – However I know someone who does have it and I can probably get
it).
– Roy Pahnke – Casper, Wyomin'
– Crazy Mountain Software –
Roy:
the hddisk files ARE here on CIS. I don't remember where exactly, but I
downloaded them myself a while ago! I believe they're the library that also
has the 1.3.2 update as well.
-Mike Schiller
In sunny Fort Lauderdale
I couldn't find the hddisk files on Cserve. I used file finder, and I
have Tapcis running on my IBM machine. No luck on either, I'm afraid.
Eric Pinnell
Oopps –
Then thats news to me Mike – though can't say as I have looked for them
lately.
– Roy Pahnke – Casper, Wyomin'
– Crazy Mountain Software –
I don't have a sperate disk that came with my controller. I suspect
that the dealer formatted my hard disk and left the hddisk files on them.
When I reformatted for 1.3, they got erased. If you could send me the
files, I'd appreciate it. My address is:
Eric Pinnell C/O Cybersim Inc. 177 Milton Avenue St. Pierre, Quebec H8R 1K9
Or, you could arrange to modem the files to me or send it to me via Email.
Is this something I could get from my local dealer??
Eric Pinnell
Eric –
After posting that message to you yesterday, I looked a little harder
and still can not find my copy of my A2090 reinstall disk. However, Mike
did say that he thought the file was here on CIS, try looking in AmigaTech
sec 11- System Utils. Or in AmigaUsers sec 14 Amiga UPDATES.
Otherwise I contact my friend and see if I can get the file from her and
I send it to ya Email.
– Roy Pahnke – Casper, Wyomin'
– Crazy Mountain Software –
Michael Gerard already sent me a copy, and now my disk boots fine. My
only remaining problem is with CrossDos, and I think I'll try loading WSH
instead.
Eric Pinnell
Roy:
You're right… I forgot that HDDisk is the expansion device driver that
comes on the 2090 software disk. I haven't heard Eric mention that he even
HAS that disk.
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
Well, I got the beast PARTIALLY working. Workbench 1.3.2 now runs off of
my machine. however, when I boot from workbench, the har disk icon does
not appear. If I go into CLI and type CD DH0: and then ENDCLI the Hard
disk icon appears and the Hard disk runs normally. Any ideas why?
Eric (We're almost there!) Pinnell
Eric:
Make sure that all of your workbench files are copied to your DH0: hard
drive partition… including you startup-sequence and startup-II files, and
all c:, devs, libs, etc.
On your BOOT FLOPPY, rename STARTUP-SEQUENCE to "Startup-Sequence.f"
Then create a file in your floppy S directory called Startup-Sequence as
follows:
setpatch
SYS:System/FastmemFirst
; ***here's where you mount any additional partitions ***
assign >NIL: DH0: exists
IF NOT WARN
; hard disk is present
assign sys: dh0:
assign c: Sys:c
assign L: Sys:l
assign FONTS: Sys:Fonts
assign S: Sys:s
assign DEVS: Sys:devs
assign LIBS: Sys:libs
makedir ram:tr
assign t: ram:tr
execute s:Startup-sequence
ELSE
; no hard disk present
execute s:Startup-sequence.f
ENDIF
Be sure that HDDISK & HDDISK.info are in the expansion drawer of both your
boot floppy AND DH0:.
I think that this will transfer all control to the hard drive and the rest
of your startup-sequence will run from your hard drive.
There is a better description of how to set up a minimal boot floppy on
pages 5-6 & 5-7 of the 1.3 enhancer documentation, but this should get you
going.
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
My startup-sequence looks totally unlike what you suggest. Your file
looks more like my startup-sequence.HD file. What line should I add to my
startup-sequence file which looks like this:
c:SetPatch > NIL: r ;patch system functions Addbuffers df0: 10 cd c: echo
"Amiga Workbench Disk Rlease 1.3.2. version 34.28" Sys:System/FastMemFirst;
move c00000 memory to last in list BindDrivers SetClock load;load system
time from real time clock (A1000 owners should
;replace the SetClock load with Date FF > NIL: -0;speed up
Text resident CLI L:Shell-Seg SYSTEM pure add; activate shell resident
c:Execute pure mount newcon: ; failat 11 run execute s:STARTUP II; This
lets resident be used for rest of script wait > NIL: 5 mins;wait for
Startup II to complete (will signal when done) ; SYS: System/SetMap usa1 ;
Activate the ()/* on keypad path ram: c: sys:utilities:sys:system s:prefs
add ; set path for Workbench LoadWB Delay ; wait for inhibit to end before
continuing endcli > NIL:
(CONTINUED)
****************************************************************** *
* * xxxxx xxxxx x x x xxx xxxx x x xxx x * *
x x x x x x x x x x x x x * * x x
x x x x x xxxx xxx xxx x * * x x x x x x
x x x x x x * * xxxxx x x x xxx x x
x x xxx x * *
* ******************************************************************
Well, after much trial and tribulation, I have FINALLY gotten WB 1.3.2
to work on my system. It boots nicely, and now even transfers control over
to my hard disk like it's supposed to.
Thanks to everyone for giving me a hand (or a file, as the case may
be). I would have broken the machine for good without your help.
Now, if I could only figure out how to make IBeM go, I'd be set. Oh
well, I guess it's Miller Time anyway….
Eric Pinnell
Well, now maybe I can sleep nights <g>
BTW: the trick now is to adjust your startup sequence so that control is
turned over to the hard drive as soon as possible. That's why I sent you
that startup-sequence that looked so different from yours. Look at the
startup-sequences in the 1.3 enhancer manual.
Glad it's working for you.
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
Congratulations, Eric. Delighted that you have it working.
Betty
Congratulations. I've been an avid viewer of this thread and feel
almost as though my favorite show has been cancelled.
"Has time finally run out for our hero? Will his quest for
storage be realized? And where is the diabolical HDdisk.info
hiding?"
Good Luck!
Gerard Menendez
Ah, but obviously you're missing the new plot thread "will our hero get
the IBeM emulator to run? Will it support his software? Will the emulator
be fast enough, or will the dreaded "software gridlock" catch up to him.
tune in to "IBeM Emulator Troubles" and find out…soon!<g>
PS: I will try to avoid repeats. It's been pretty grim…
Eric…
I don't use IBeM, but others that have installed it on unaccelerated
machines have said it is torturously slow and that on a 68030 2x MHz, it
will perform like an old 4 MHz XT. So don't get your hopes up too high.
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
I don't need a lot of speed. The application I use is mostly moving small
amounts of data around and changing the text display. As long as it isn't
REALLY sluggy (like PCDitto on the ST), then it'll be fine.
Eric Pinnell
Eric,
congragulations on the success.
Brian J. Bartlett
Eric,
AmigaDOS has a slight quirk that you've run into. It will not display
an icon for a device that has not been accessed. If, for instance, you do
not access your RAM: device anywhere in your startup-sequence, or
startupII, you won't see the icon for it when the startup-sequence is
finished.
The simplest solution is to issue a command somewhere in your
startup-sequence that addresses your hard drive in some way. In my case
(on my A1000) I issued a 'cd dh0:' followed by my commands to assign c:,
devs:, etc to my hard disk. (Poof!) Instant icon. With my Ram: drive I
just relabel the beast and it appears on my Workbench (I happen to like
calling my Ram: drive RD0 😉
I hope this helps.
Brian J. Bartlett
Yeah, I've managed to get my little icon appear. So all looks fairly
promising in the Land of the Ancient Amiga. Now if I could only get the ECS
chip set, I'd be set for life!
Eric Pinnell
Eric… The article on the ECS went out in the mail to you today (sorry for
the delay)… The new ECS really won't change your life much.
What you DO need is either 1.3 or 2.0 roms. All that the ECS is really
going to do for you is:
a) allow 2 meg of chip ram (via ECS Agnus)
b) give you a couple of video modes (via Denise) that you don't have
(and that, IMHO, you won't use).
– Whapping from the North Coast Michael
The reason I want the extra video modes is that it will mean I can
support the extra modes on my machine. It would be rather foolish to write
Amiga software only to turn around and say to the 3000 users "sorry, we
don't support and hi-res modes".
Eric Pinnell
Eric, despite rumors to the contrary, hddisk is available here in AmigaTech
library 11 as CAHD.ARC. Hope you get your hard drive going soon!
John
Eric, the files ARE here in AmigaTech. Look in the System Utils library,
Library 11, for CAHD.ARC. If you had looked with the keyword HDDISK, you
would have located it. In fact, any of these keywords could have been
typed in the File Finder's Keyword option: Keywords: 2090 A2090 HDDISK
DRIVER EXPANSION CBM COMMODORE
and every one of those keywords would have located the file.
Now, go to AmigaTech, then to Library 11, and type:
BRO CAHD.ARC
and you will find the file.
Betty