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#Hard Drive choices

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#31902From: Brian WarnerAug 15, 1991 3:56 PM
Greetings to everybody… I have a few questions about hard drives for the Amiga… I have a ST296N with a Supra WordSync card that has served me very well but is getting too full. I'm looking for a 3.5" drive of about the same capacity (80Mb), hopefully in the $300 range. Can anyone tell me about the reliability of the Seagate 3.5" drives? I recall being warned against one company's smaller format drives, but I don't remember which. Any suggestions? I was also planning to get the drive from ComputAbility.. are there any mail-order stores that you prefer? Any other types of drives (Quantum, Fujitsu, etc) that you would recommend? I guess I have to get a straightforward SCSI drive to use with the WordSync card, but are there advantages to other formats (IDE, etc?), about which I know nothing? Thanks in advance… Brian Warner 71076,1114 KC6ZPR warner@leland.stanford.edu
#31972From: Don Curtis/SYSOPAug 16, 1991 12:09 AM
Brian, The biggest problem with the Seagates is that they take too long to spin up and become "ready" on cold start and with some host adapters it means that you won't get the drive recognized on the first attempt. I'm guessing that your WordSync isn't one of those host adapters…since you're using it with a SeaGate now…but that doesn't mean that other SeaGates won't. There had been some problems a year or two ago with some of the SeaGates, but it seems they have been worked out, as I've not heard much in the way of complaints about them lately. You can't use anything but a SCSI drive with your WordSync unless you also buy a bus adapter that adapts other types of drives to a SCSI bus. That's pretty much a waste of money since native SCSI drives (drives that come already set up as SCSI drives) are pretty much the fastest on the market when compared with equally priced drives of other types. Don
#32039From: Brian WarnerAug 16, 1991 2:40 PM
Hmmm.. would that cold start spin-up time be the cause of my 2 minute boot sequence? I have seen it sit there, with the drive's noise at a relatively constant tone (which implies to me that the thing is up to speed), and yet the screen shows white for at least 60 seconds before the startup-sequence gets control. Would you then recommend a different brand? What are the other brands? I've heard of Quantum, not many others. Thanks.. Brian
#32079From: Don Curtis/SYSOPAug 17, 1991 12:26 AM
Brian, Yes…that could be at least part of the cause of the delay. As to brand, I personally like Conner drives, but lots of others like Quantum's and still lots of others are perfectly happy with their SeaGates. As to speeding up your cold boots…contact Supra (you did say you had a WordSync..right?). They may have some ideas on how to speed things up. Don
#32330From: Supra CorpAug 19, 1991 12:37 PM
Mr. Curtis is correct, the new driver is located completely in rom now, and will greatly increase boot times. In some cases 3 to 4 times what the old drive would do. Kenny Supra Technical Support
#32120From: Michael GerardAug 17, 1991 9:48 AM
Brian: Supra has new autoboot roms available for older WordSync controllers that will DRAMATICALLY increase the speed of cold boots AND alow the controller to work properly on an acellerated cpu with a slow Hard Drive (like a Seagate). – Whapping from the North Coast Michael
#32295From: Brian WarnerAug 19, 1991 1:30 AM
Well, thank you all. I will call Supra about those ROMs and see if they can send me a pair. And if nobody has bad things to say about anybody's 3.5" drives I'll just look for the cheapest price that's out there. thanks again… Brian 71076,1114
#32313From: Michael GerardAug 19, 1991 9:25 AM
Brian, _IMHO_, Seagate drives are not worth owning. They are noisey, slow to spin up (which can cause delays in autobooting your system), and not the most reliable available…. again, this is just my opinion based on pastuse of seagates with a WordSync controller. – Whapping from the North Coast Michael
#32346From: KEITH YOUNGAug 19, 1991 4:21 PM
OTOH, Seagate apparently bought out Imprimis (sp)… thier drives are fast, spin up fast, and have proven to be pretty reliable in our experiance. The slow spinup (autoboot delays) may in fact be a symptom of the WordSync… I've heard that there may be some things you can do to help speed that up, you might want to give Supra a call. Keith
#32390From: Michael GerardAug 19, 1991 11:21 PM
Keith, I no longer have the WordSync… but I did have it connected on a 2000 with a seagate 277N. The WordSync was fine, but the seagate took so long to spin up that my 25MHz 68030 was looking for the boot partition WAY before the drive was ready. Supra made a new set of autoboot roms available that were 'smart' enough to wait for the drive to spin up to speed. The wordsync, when used with a quantum or conner is a very fast controller. – Whapping from the North Coast Michael