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#Frame Accurate VCR's

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#72028From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 11, 1994 9:51 PM
As I become more involved with my VideoToaster, it's easy to see those who use them can become rapidly impoverished. There's always one more goodie to buy. <G> My ambitions are growing and I'd like to move up from the Panasonic AG-1970's I currently have to a frame-accurate VCR with SMPTE capabilities. S-VHS is an acceptable format for me. Does any one have any suggestions of reasonably priced VCR's with these capabilities? Of course, "reasonably priced" is a rather broad term in regard to these machines. My primary interest is in lip-sync, not animation, although I am not ruling out that as future diversion. I haven't seen any really critical reviews of the new Sanyo. Any one using this unit? All suggestions cheerfully appreciated. Jerry
#72032From: Lou WallaceJan 11, 1994 10:18 PM
I've been using the Sanyo Jerry. So far (about 3 months) it has worked well. ALl of the rendering was done with lightwave on an A3000… I've got a review of it in the current issue of Desktop Video World. Lou
#72046From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 12, 1994 1:22 AM
Oddly enough, Lou, reading your review is what prompted the question. I have a bias against Sanyo because of the incredibly poor performance and even worse service records one of their fax machines has racked up here. Probably made by a totally different division, of course, but still capable of leaving a sour taste. Sounds like the Sanyo is worth a rental, if I can find one, to check it out. I'll have to check with Amilink folks to see if they intend to support it or already do. On another subject, please accept my compliments on making Desktop Video World an absolute must-read. I just extended my initial subscription for another two years, probably the sincerest form of flattery I can extend to you. Tom Negrino tells me, though, that you're dropping "Digital Dialogue". Although Tom and I cross swords fairly often, I'm sorry to hear that. I felt the three voices really helped me to keep a finger on the market. For whatever it's worth, incidentally, we're the folks (FontBank) who licensed NewTek most of the fonts included with VT 3.0. Thank you again for the comments. And once more, thank you for turning out what I think is one of the very best journals covering this emerging technology. Jerry
#72090From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPJan 12, 1994 4:59 PM
Since this is the sort of thing on my list of things to get (someday), I'm curious why you'd go with a tape deck, and not something like the DPS PAR? Steve
#72111From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 12, 1994 10:26 PM
Steve: I'm really not that interested in animation. My primary purpose is more on the order of getting good lipsync for editing than anything else. If my primary interest were animation, I wouldn't even think of anything else but DTP PAR, which certainly seems the way to go. Jerry
#72267From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPJan 14, 1994 4:27 PM
You can also use the DPS PAR to capture live video. Steve
#72281From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 14, 1994 7:54 PM
"You can also use the DPS PAR to capture live video." Steve: Hmmmmmm . . . maybe I'm misunderstanding the total functionality of the DPS PAR. I read that you can capture live video with it if you're using a DPS TBCIV. But my understanding was that you couldn't capture audio at the same time. Also, would the DPS PAR work as the master recorder for an A/B roll editing setup? Nothing I've read indicates that it would. If you have some more information on this, it would be interesting to hear about. Overall, I wonder how far from non-linear editing for the VideoToaster NewTek and others are? That would be way cool! Jerry
#72401From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPJan 16, 1994 9:54 PM
I'm not the right person to get the low-down on the PAR….I'm just an interested observer of the product. (And probably a future owner). 🙂 I could swear I read that someone here, or someone on USENET was using the PAR in conjunction with an audio capture. The best place to find out is to call DPS and find out for sure.
#72403From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 16, 1994 11:04 PM
I don't think the DPS PAR will really do the job for A/B editing though. Doesn't the 500Meg drive maximum limit the amount of video you can store? Jerry
#72434From: Jim SteeleJan 17, 1994 12:34 PM
Jerry, The PAR can now use 2 drives, and newer drives than the original 500 meg Seagate. The new maximum is two 1.7 gig drives. I'm not sure how it handles the transistion between drives though- if an animation can cross over between drives. I would have thought that in a two drive system that the frames would be interleaved between drives. I hear that DMI's digital Broadcaster 32 is now shipping. It uses SCSI drives, so you're not limited to the two of the IDE system.
#72435From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 17, 1994 12:38 PM
This is getting kind of interesting. Makes me wonder if non-linear editing using the VideoToaster isn't just about around the corner. Maybe the right thing to do is just wait a few months before making a decision. Jerry
#72464From: Jim SteeleJan 17, 1994 8:08 PM
I'd bet the NewTek guys are doing something along those lines. I'm not sure that most of the Toaster wouldn't be a waste in a non-linear editor though. The DVE's for sure. You'd need two separate video streams comming off the hard drives. It makes more sense to me to do those effects with an image processing program.
#72471From: J Saperstein/FontBankJan 18, 1994 2:44 AM
Jim: People like Fast, Matrox and Avid on the low-end are doing effects handily with non-linear devices. I'm not arguing the issue since I don't know enough about it to argue it intelligently, but rather just wanted to point it out. On the high end, of course, all the non-linear systems I know of offer digital effects. Jerry
#72561From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPJan 19, 1994 5:34 PM
I believe the largest drive that it can use is now beyond 500 meg. Somewhere over a gig….. 1.7, I think.