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#20180From: James WalshJul 28, 1992 11:25 AM
Wanna save money? I have a suggestion: That all those huge .zip files be replaced with economical lzh files. The LHA compression program is far superior for graphics, and has been used by myself and others with great success. I have one .flc file that is 3.87 megs, the lha compression was .87 megs! The file is shareware, and the license is really generous, the only drawback is that the compressions take a little longer. Wow. It is nowhere near as much as you lose uploading and downloading (and you're paying for that!!!) James
#20186From: Bob ProkoppJul 28, 1992 12:50 PM
Hi, James. That's interesting. Where could I find it? Bob P – Product Support / Autodesk
#20309From: James WalshJul 30, 1992 1:55 PM
Bob – Uh….oh, the LHA? I will upload it sometime today. You have to check out the compression rates on this utility! It compresses slower, but the space savings are well worth it!!! James
#20313From: Bob ProkoppJul 30, 1992 2:21 PM
Thanks, James. I look forward to playing around with it. Some of my models are getting too extensive.
#20314From: James WalshJul 30, 1992 2:39 PM
Dude – It's on, as soon as the sysop will let you touch it. James
#20328From: Bob ProkoppJul 30, 1992 4:03 PM
Thanks, much. I'll pull it down as soon as I can.
#20379From: charles jamesonJul 31, 1992 12:35 PM
Oh, Bob, if you are looking at compression alternatives, check out ARJ before you settle on another. (ZIP is fine with me, though). Chuck Jameson Silver Tongue Software
#20513From: James WalshAug 2, 1992 4:00 PM
What is ARJ? James
#20555From: charles jamesonAug 3, 1992 8:57 AM
ARJ is another compression package. Try IBM file find. The author of ARJ (and UNARJ) is Robert Jung, CIS 72077,445 Chuck Jameson Silver Tongue Software
#20570From: James WalshAug 3, 1992 10:12 AM
Charles – Obviously it's another compression utility. What kind of rate does it have? Is it fast, slow, tight or sloppy, multi-platform, etc? Does it compress some files better than others? (LHA compresses graphics better than any other program I have run across) James
#20584From: Ray WaldinAug 3, 1992 12:45 PM
ARJ can be found in Zenith's Forum, Lib 5, as ARJ230.EXE. The following was taken from WHY_ARJ.DOC (which comes with ARJ). Computer Personlich, June 12, 1991, Leader of the Pack, Bernd Wiebelt and Matthias Fichtner. In this German magazine, ARJ 2.0 was named Test Sieger (Test Winner) over six other archivers including PKZIP and LHA. Compression, speed, documentation, and features were compared. PC Sources, July 1991, Forum, Barry Brenesal, "A new challenger, ARJ 2.0, not only offers the speed of PKZIP, but also has the best compression rate of the bunch." Computer Shopper, September 1991, Shells, Bells, and Files: Compressors for All Cases, Craig Menefee. "ARJ … is extremely fast and produces excellent compression; it … has a rich set of options. … This is a mature technology, and any of these programs will do a fine and reliable job." PC Magazine, October 15, 1991, Squeeze Play, Barry Simon. "Jung has combined that foundation with academic research to produce an impressive product. … If your main criterion is compressed size, ARJ will be one of your two main contenders, along with LHA." SHAREWARE Magazine, Nov-Dec 1991, Fall Releases, Joseph Speaks. "Don't tell the creators of ARJ that PKZIP is the standard for data compression. They probably already know. But that hasn't stopped them from creating a data compression utility that makes everyone – even the folks at PKWare – sit up and take notice. .. but compression statistics don't tell the whole story. The case for using ARJ is strengthened by new features it debuts." BOARDWATCH Magazine, December 1991, ARCHIVE/COMPRESSION UTILITIES, "This year's analysis rendered a surprise winner. Robert K. Jung's ARJ Version 2.22 is a relatively new compression utility that offers surprising performance. The program emerged on the scene within the past year and the 2.22 version was released in October 1991. It rated number one on .EXE and database files and number two behind LHarc Version 2.13 in our directory of 221 short text files." Hope that helps! -Ray
#20217From: Joe MacRaeJul 29, 1992 3:34 AM
James, There is only one drawback to LHA. It is strictly DOS based. I use it extensively on my own machine (and love it for exactly the reasons you stated.) But it denys owners of other operating systems access to our library files. We have pretty much standardized on PKZIP for the libraries as it is available across a wide variety of platforms and OS'es. But on a single DOS machine or even a network of DOS machines, LHA will usually win out.
#20310From: James WalshJul 30, 1992 1:57 PM
Joe – Wow, I didn't know that it was single-platform. None of the Macians around out office use compression, they just take up as much space as they can…. Well, I will call up Yoshizaki and tell him…. James
#20332From: Joe MacRaeJul 30, 1992 5:39 PM
James, You also gonna buy him the MAC to write it on ???. How about the Sun or Iris or DEC or Apollo or ……….<grin>.
#20362From: James WalshJul 31, 1992 8:50 AM
Joe – Hahah. No, but I think that if it was mentioned to him, with a possible base he might develop one. No, I won't buy him one, I don't own a $17 Million home either so….. I am sorry your life has taught you such cycnicism. What about PKzip for those other systems? If they don't have it, then your point is invalid, if they do, why not LHA? James
#20364From: Joe MacRaeJul 31, 1992 9:09 AM
James, They do have a version of PKZIP. That's why I mentioned them….<grin>.
#20512From: James WalshAug 2, 1992 3:59 PM
Joe – If they have them, then why would it be unreasonable for LHA to exist on those platforms? Or are we experiencing a form of OS prejudice? James
#20549From: Joe MacRaeAug 3, 1992 6:15 AM
James, It's not unreasonable for LHA to exist in those Operating Systems. It just doesn't yet and I don't know of any plans to make it so. The only Archive formats that cross platforms are ARC and ZIP, although there is an UNSIT for the DOS world to be able to use the SIT format from the MAC.
#20514From: James WalshAug 2, 1992 4:10 PM
Joe – I have just recieved word form LHA. They do, in fact, support MAC; also UNIX, a and CPM. I guess thats too bad…. James
#20550From: Joe MacRaeAug 3, 1992 6:15 AM
James, This could be welcome news, but I haven't seen anything on CIS about it or the LHA programs. Looks like you won't get the pleasure of adding all those machines to Yoshi's collection…….<grin>.
#20568From: James WalshAug 3, 1992 10:07 AM
Joe – Damn…and I already paid the UPS charges…. James
#20390From: SysOp Jeffrey PikeJul 31, 1992 1:48 PM
James – I found your upload yesterday. When I tried to unarchive it, my machine locked, so I didn't merge it. Besides, we already have a copy of LHARC on the forum: LHA212.EXE in library 10, Utilities. Since it looked like you uploaded version 2.10, you might want to update your version from our forum <grin>. Thanks for looking out for the interests of our forum members, and keep those uploads coming.