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Byte's NEW AMIGA??

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#65253From: Charles HillAug 10, 1992 10:35 AM
Hmmmm, that's odd that he got it so darned late (unless he ignored the oters at Byte and waited 'til Commodore specifically gave *him* one). Oh, well, he has an awful lot of influence — it's a shame his vision of multimedia extends only to PCs with CD-ROMs and Soundblaster cards. 🙁 -Chas
#65373From: Edward SwatschekAug 11, 1992 7:24 AM
It may be he waited for C= to give him one, but some of the more, umm, strident mail he gets whenever he writes about the Amiga puts him off Amigas for a a while. The announcement may have something to do with this item I picked off the Usenet: ================================================================ Taken from MIND LINK! on Tue Aug 11 04:34:03 1992 Mon Aug 10 15:03:54 1992 Message : #4089486 From: Brandon Lee Worrell Address : Hytec@cup.portal.com Group : Usenet.comp.sys.amiga.misc Length : 3398 bytes Subject : 040 based 3000T announcement Read 8 times Msg-ID: <63775@cup.portal.com> Posted: Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:33:23 Org. : The Portal System (TM) After several messages, here is the actual product announcement as mailed to me by CBM. Please forgive any typo's. NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT Product Model Number: A3000T-040 Product Description: Amiga 3000 Tower with a Motorola 68040 processor. The MC68040 is running at 25 MHz and includes an on-chip FPU. The A3000T-040 includes a 200 megabyte hard drive and 5 megabytes of memory. The MC68040 provides approximately 20 CISC MIPS, and 3.5 DP Megaflops. The A3000T-040 does not have either a MC68030 or a MC68882 installed. Note: The A3000T-040 is an addition to the product family and does not replace the A3000T- 25/200 which remains a current product. Product Applications: The A3000T-040 is the perfect product for demanding applications like complex animations, ray tracing, and intensive graphics. Most applications that require intensive computing will benefit when run on this Powerhouse processor. Compatibility: AmigaDOS 2.0 Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price: $5998.00 US includes 1950/1960 Monitor through Sept. [ MORE ]
#65375From: Edward SwatschekAug 11, 1992 7:24 AM
[ continuation ] 30, 1992 Availability: First Reseller shipments are projected for mid-September 1992 Promotion: Advertisement in September AmigaWorld, Byte, and Amazing Computing Magazines. Commodore Press Release. Note: Due to a typographical error the Advertisement in the September issue of Amiga World incorrectly indicared that the MC68882 would be included in the A3000T-040. This error has been corrected in future advertisement. —————————————————————————– NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT Product Model Number: A3640 Product Description: Motorola 68040 upgrade card for the Amiga 3000T-25/200. The processor speed is 25MHz, and includes an on-chip FPU. The MC68040 provides approximately 20 CISC MIPS, and 3.5 DP Megaflops. This product is intended for use in the A3000T ONLY. Installation of the A3640 in any other Amiga product may cause system failure. Product Applications: (same as A3000T-040) Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price: $1998.00 US Availability: Initially all units will be shipped as part of an A3000T-040 configuration. First reseller shipments of A3640 boards is projected for early Q2, FY93. —————————————————————————– Well, there are the announcements. There was also a letter that I am not going to type in. I will let everyone know when I get first shipments on these items, and what the "real" price will end up being. In the meantime, A3000 prices have fallen below $2000 and the 3000T is lower also. (from me of course, I dont know about other dealers) Feel free to contact me if you want other information…. Brandon Worrell HyTec Computers 206-456-7656 [ MORE ]
#65377From: Charles HillAug 11, 1992 7:52 AM
Yes, I saw the ad in Amazing Computing last night (just got the new issue) and it, too had the 68882 typo. Still, it looks like a nice step up (comparable to the Mac Quadra [minus the Ethernet and graphics and the price]) Two other ads I noticed that were of some interest are one for SAS/C v6 and ADPro's new Morph Plus. -CHas
#65547From: Mark D. ManesAug 12, 1992 8:02 PM
Edward, To expand on that a bit… the 68040 card from Commodore will *NOT* work in existing A3000 desktop systems. This came also with the product announcement. There was no mention of a 68040 board from Commodore for the A3000 desktop owners. -mark= – whappity whap whap… whap whap!!
#65585From: Mike SchillerAug 13, 1992 12:39 AM
Mark: According to the specs of the C= 68040 board, it looks like it's functionally equivelent to the original PP&S card. No memory expansion, running at 25mhz sync, as opposed to running async. The PP&S card is selling for MUCH less than the advertised price of the C= card, and will fit in ANY A3000. (I have one in my A3000UX running just fine.) -Mike Schiller On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
#65425From: Skip DyrdaAug 11, 1992 8:46 PM
Kinda along the same lines, the latest issue of AVideo has a good article on the emergence of desktop video by Ed Cornell. In it he talks about the Toaster and the Amiga and says " Using the Commodore Amiga platform, possibly the most underrated and misunderstood computer of all time," blah,blah,blah…… That about says it, I think. >>>>>Skip (SKP Graphics) <<<<<
#65492From: Charles HillAug 12, 1992 7:54 AM
Yeah, it is a shame Commodore doesn'thave an extra $15 – $20 million to drop into U.S./Canada advertising…could make a *big* difference. -Chas
#65520From: Skip DyrdaAug 12, 1992 3:39 PM
We(all of us) could argue this till we're blue in the face, I suppose. But the bottom line is that for all IBM's dominance and Apples ummmm….smuggness, C= DID show a nice profit last year. Guess they know what they're doing. Maybe it can be compared to the way a lot of software companies always fall by the wayside in new markets. Many times they are the ones that aren't very careful with they're expenses, like advertising budgets. The company I worked for didn't have the best products in any sense, but because the owner was very careful about when and were he advertised, which was very little, he's still in business. Doing well enough for him. Anyway. I think we'll be OK. This has been going on since I got my first Amiga way back….. >>>>>Skip (SKP Graphics) <<<<<
#65624From: Charles HillAug 13, 1992 8:42 AM
Oh, I know that Commodore will do fine. Their financials look pretty good and they have a good track record (overall) with profits. Still, the ads to show people we're out there are sorely needed. I don't know how many times I shown not only individuals, but entire companies what my Amiga can do only to have them say "I wish I knew about these before I bought ….." [Compaq was a popular one.] General consumers, on the other hand, are idiots. I've been in a number of stores when a prospective buyer starts asking questions. Almost invariably it ends up … CUST: Is it IBM compatible? SHOP: Not normally, but it can be. Still, all your data can be used. CUST: Yeah, but with an IBM compatible I can get all this neat stuff from my friends and not have to pay for it… I just sold a PC Clone (loaded 386). The cpu went one way and some parts went another. With the person who bought the cpu it was "Oh, you actually have the *originals* of all those disks? You should've asked…I could've got you them for free!" With some of the peripherals I sold (and installed) I always found loaded hard drives and *no* manuals, disks, etc. Most often they were asking *me* on how to run something! [Step one, buy the software and read the docs…] [The peripherals person also thought Prodigy was the neatest thing to sliced bread! She was on there over four hours a day, average!] I'm not too sure I *want* the Amiga to compete with that. -Chas