CompuServe Thread

#Byte's NEW AMIGA??

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#65081From: Fernando CassiaAug 8, 1992 8:06 PM
BYTE magazine is essentially a PC & Mac magazine, but it mentions the word "Amiga" at least once a year to calm Amiga-user's protests (and not with very in-depth reviews). There are a lot of rumours in the Amiga community about the so-called "new generation" Amigas… but a recent article in Byte really confused me… It's on page 110, in the August isuue. Jerry Pournelle's comment: "Next month, the Amiga scene: a new Amiga arrived last week. More on multimedia and a whole bunch of CD-ROMs…" (That's all the Amiga coverage for August!!!) What's happening ?? … new Amiga … or maybe Jerry Pournelle stopped dreaming and discovered CDTV??? or maybe the A3000T… Ahhh, these Intel-Minded writers… What do you think??? Fernando Cassia Buenos Aires, Argentina.
#65089From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 8, 1992 10:09 PM
Fernando, Jerry Pournelle is in a position of incredible power through his column. I think the situation is detestable. Like critics in other media he can make or break one's reputaion. He has been less than kind to the Amiga over the years. But then maybe that's because CBM hasn't fawned over him and sent him lots of Amiga goodies. I dunno. But make no mistake about it. If he were to praise some aspect of the Amiga, and do it more than just once or twice, the benefits to the Amiga community could be astounding. If he _does_ have some new model Amiga, this could get _very_ interesting. Maybe somebody at CBM finally had a stroke of genius . . . . . . sitting around a conference table . . . brain storming new ad campaign for new generation machines . . "Hey, how bout we give Pournelle the 6000 Belchfire to play with . . . Plenty of software. CD ROMS. Mega pixel display. 3D imaging. Direct printing dye-sublimation output. Scanners. Digital audio samplers . . ." Naaaah Rich
#65095From: Fernando CassiaAug 8, 1992 10:45 PM
I agree with you in all!. And also read CD-I article in Byte's last issue! (I send a message in Amigatech!, read it and let me know!) Thanks for answering, Fernando. Buenos Aires, Argentina … and AMIGA!
#65168From: Fernando CassiaAug 9, 1992 2:53 PM
What a dream! I hope someday that be possible! Great comments! Fernando, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
#65184From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 9, 1992 4:44 PM
Fernando, What a great communication medium this system is! Yours is the first message I've noticed from Argentina. Here I am sitting on a rock (Maui, HI) in the middle of the Pacific ocean able to instantly converse with the entire world for almost the cost of a local phone call. We have at times had messages here from the continents of North and South America, Europe, Great Britain, the Arabian peninsula, and even Japan all within a few minutes of each other. Are you a native of Argentina? How accessable is Compuserve there? What is the Amiga situation? Rich
#65300From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiAug 10, 1992 6:57 PM
Believe it or not, I know some PC users who have respect for the Amiga _because_ of what Jerry P. says. As Amiga users, we tend to notice the unkind comments–especially since they've all been pretty much unfounded. But apparently he's made enough "hey, this is neat" comments to positively influence _some_ PC folks' perceptions about the machine.
#65357From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Aug 11, 1992 12:47 AM
Denny, Jerry _has_ made some positive comments about the Amiga. But in general, his very few comments over the last year or so have indicated that it is just about moribund. It will be very interesting to see what he has to say in his hinted-at upcoiming column. Sure hope it's a little more positive.
#65384From: Steve AhlstromAug 11, 1992 12:47 PM
Denny, If you know folks who are influeneced by what Pournelle says then you hang out with some strange people! <grin> -sja
#65413From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiAug 11, 1992 7:48 PM
Steve, Actually, both folks who said that they were influenced by Pournelle were CIS members. 🙂 (Of course, they were CIS members who hang out in PC areas. <g>)
#65792From: James RoathAug 14, 1992 11:41 AM
Thats true… In fact doesn't he actually own an Amiga 2000 or 1000 ? I think I have some old issue of Byte wher he mentions his Amiga…
#65109From: Kevin DarlingAug 9, 1992 12:21 AM
Since BYTE's article lead time is very long, a lot of people have guessed that Pournelle may have gotten an A3000 or perhaps a Toaster system. My guess is either one of those, and perhaps Vista Pro. (Isn't that what A. C. Clarke uses?) q/ex
#65142From: Charles HillAug 9, 1992 10:17 AM
I don't think BYTE's lead time is *that* long. Remember, they had the A3000 on the cover and have had a number of articles on the Toaster and Toaster related items. I could be just about anything…A600, CDTV, whatever. I don't think Pournelle would write too much about the Toaster — that is mor in line with Byte's Multimedia Lab. He has always struck me as "if it isn't the biggest, fastest and free (to him), it isn't news". The man should go back to writing SciFi and stop extolling the virtues of a 50MHz 80486, CD-ROM based, multigigabyte drive/RAM machines to the general public. -Chas
#65196From: ELLIOTT,RONALD J.Aug 9, 1992 7:19 PM
I'm completely in agreement with you Amigans as to BYTE and Mr. Pournelle, its just that I hope we won't wind up in another days-long thread of emotional vituperation against those people. It gives them more attention than they deserve and it gets my epiZOOtic worked up! – via Whap!
#65167From: Fernando CassiaAug 9, 1992 2:53 PM
The Toaster system was mentioned in the June issue of Byte… (compared with Mac and PC 3D rendering software) I think that Pournelle just got an A3000T… Fernando, Buenos Aires, Argentina
#65231From: Paul ToalAug 10, 1992 5:00 AM
Kevin, You seem to go to the four corners in BBS land. Is John Dvorak a writer of substance? In the August issue of PC Magazine he commented on the whining Amiga diehards and almost admitted that our OS was superior. Is this of significance? Or is it typical of his and/or Byte's views on the Amiga and it's fanatics. –Paul Still on AutoPilot
#65242From: Kevin DarlingAug 10, 1992 7:59 AM
Paul, Yah, I spend about six hours a day on various nets. One thing I think I've mentioned here before is how fascinating it has been to watch the changing attitudes towards the Amiga and Amiga owners over the years. In some places, people still don't want to hear about the Amiga, and Amiga owners are still seen as annoying religious fanatics. Those are tied together, in my opinion. People are usually turned off by totally fanatical behavior. On the other hand, in some places more and more people seek out information about the Amiga or are at least willing to hear about it. For example, here on CIS. Why? Because instead of raw all-is-great fanaticism, they now usually get back the calm straight dope, bad and good combined. I think that's partly because of the more mature (aka "older" 🙂 group of people here. Another part is because many people here also own other systems. But I ramble. I think Dvorak was simply using Amiga fanaticism as an analogy to OS/2 fanaticism. Back when OS/2 first came out, there were hot religious debates in some PC groups about multitasking vs non-multitasking, etc. Sound familiar? <grin> I don't know if that's what you meant, but… cheers – kevin
#65340From: Michael GerardAug 10, 1992 10:44 PM
Kevin… I think you make some really good points: 1) the Amiga user is maturing 2) the Amiga user is now in general more familiar with other platforms 3) the non-Amiga user is also maturing, and becoming aware that different tools are suited to different jobs. Nice to see isn't it? Michael
#65254From: Betty Clay/SYSOPAug 10, 1992 10:35 AM
Paul, John Dvorak is one of the best-known of PC writers. He'd be cutting his own throat to say anything else was better! Just have a look at all of his books in the computer section of your local bookstore – and every one about PC-Compatibles.
#65301From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiAug 10, 1992 6:57 PM
Jerry's got an A3000.