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#MIDI Advice please!

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#21474From: Miguel ChavezAug 27, 1992 6:37 AM
Hello I'm new to the MIDI world and though I think I have grasped most of the basics for the life of me I can't figure one thing out: I have a Roland SPD8, a drum pad with 112 built in sounds. It of course has MIDI capabalities. The question is, how do I go about dumping my settings to my amiga for storage? I thought a librarian is what I need, but all the Librarians I see here in the MIDI file library, there descriptions list them as made for a specific type of MIDI device (keyboards, drum machines, etc.). Do i have to wait until someone makes a librarian for the SPD8 or is there some sort of universal MIDI librarian out there that will simply receive a midi dump from a midi device and save it to a file on my HD and then let me dump it back in to a device (probably the same one I took it from). Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially and recommended programs out there in the public domain or otherwise. Miguel Chavez
#21478From: Dominick J. FontanaAug 27, 1992 8:01 AM
Miguel, You need a universal librarian. Actually, that's a misnomer because they are not really universal unless you have a driver for your device. Three commercial products for the Amiga are: The PatchMeister by Blue Ribbon SoundWorks (404) 377-1514; MIDI Quest by Music Quest; and X-OR by Dr. T's. They all come with drivers for different MIDI devices. If a driver is not included for your device, you can theoretically try to create your own. However, if you are a MIDI novice, that will probably not be feasible. So, you can buy a program that has a SPD8 driver or try to bug the company to create one. However, there is an alternative. If your SPD8 allows you to initiate a bulk dump from it, you can backup all your data in SysEx format, and later retrieve it. I use The PatchMeister which costs much less than the other two programs, since it's just a librarian and the other two are also universal editors. The PM allows you to do a bulk dump. It's not as flexible as having a driver and your device must allow you to do a bulk dump, but it does work. For instance, with a driver you might be able to save and load individual sounds. With Sysex you could only save and load all 112 sounds at once, but you could do it, if the SPD8 allows bulk dumps. Good luck. Dom Fontana
#21505From: Miguel ChavezAug 28, 1992 6:58 AM
THanks for the info. Yes the SPD8 allows bulk dumps… that was my intention ; to save the entire set of sounds at a time. I guess ROLAND might have created a driver for this device already but maybe it's in ATARI ST or MAC format…. mayeb there is a quick and dirty way of porting it over? I take it that there is a MIDI forum here in CIS? Maybe they'll have something. BTW, there's some old file in this library that purports to describe the MIDI format and any other pertinent information… is this file still worth geting? Maybe it's outdated? THanks again. Miguel
#21525From: Dominick J. FontanaAug 29, 1992 2:47 AM
Miguel, Yes, there is a MIDI/Music Forum. I'm one of the Sysops there. Type "GO MIDIFORUM" (without the quotes) to get there. Any driver would also have to be in the format of the universal librarian that you are using. Sorry, but I'm sure how good the MIDI text file is that you referred to. Hope to see you in the MIDI Forum. I'm the Amiga Section Leader. Drop into Section 6 and say hello. Dom Fontana
#21508From: Bob AshforthAug 28, 1992 7:13 AM
Miguel- It may be worth noting that many sequencers (programs for recording streams of MIDI messages as a tape recorder records sounds) allow MIDI dumps to be "recorded" and then "played back." If you own one (or buy one), this would get you a librarian on the cheap. If not, Dom's recommendation of PatchMeister is a highly recommended solution to your problem: it's flexible, but inexpensive, since it doesn't attempt to be a universal *editor* as well as a librarian. Bob – (!) –